# Mayor calls for ‘nationwide pause’ on Flock cameras: 'UNCONSTITUTIONAL'
# Fox News Clips — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddHS3ijbauA

PETER: BLOCK SURVEILLANCE
CAMERAS -- FLOCK AFTER A
REPORTED 50 LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICERS USED THE TECHNOLOGY FOR
UNAUTHORIZED PURPOSES INCLUDING
TO STALK WOMEN.
NOW CITIES AND COUNTIES ACROSS
THE COUNTRY ARE REJECTING THE
USE OF THE RAMAM -- CAMERAS
ALTOGETHER.
LET'S BRING IN THE MAYOR OF KNOX
COUNTY, TENNESSEE, GLENN JACOBS.
MAYOR JACOBS, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE.
THESE ARE NO ORDINARY LICENSE
PLATE READERS.
THEY CAN TRACK CARS BY DENTS OR
BY BUMPER STICKERS.
COPS IN YOUR COUOUNTY WANTED A
MILLION DOLLARS' WORTH UNTIL, AS
"THE NEW YORK POST" WRITES,
YOU,, THE A FORMER WORK WE STAR,
CHOKE SLAMMED THE DEAL.
WHY?
WELL, PETER, FIRST OF ALL,
THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.
AS YOU SAID, THESE ARE NOT YOUR
TYPICAL OR CONVENTION ALLIANCE
PLATE READERS.
THEY'RE A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
THIS DEBATE IS FRAMED ABOUT LAW
ENFORCEMENT VERSUS -- AND PUBLIC
SAFETY VERSUS PRIVACY.
REALLY, I WANT LAW ENFORCEMENT
TO HAVE ALL THE TOOLS THAT THEY
NEED.
AT THE SAME TIME THOSE TOOLS
HAVE TO BE CONSTITUTIONAL AND
SAFE.
I'M SURE YOU ALL SAW A STORY
JUST TWO DAYS AGO WHERE A LADY
IN WISCONSIN WAS BOXED IN BY
POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAD THEIR
WEAPONS DRAWN BECAUSE A FLOCK
CAMERA HAD FLAGGED HER CAR AS
BEING INVOLVED IN A MURDER.
THERE WAS ANOTHER STORY VERY
SIMILAR TO THAT FEW WEEK WEEKS
AGO WHERE A FAMILY WAS PULLED
OVER, POLICE GOT OUT OF THE CARS
BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A
DANGEROUS SITUATION, THEY
THOUGHT IT WAS A STOLEN CAR.
IT WAS NOT.
IT WAS AN ERROR WITH FLOCK
CAMERAS.
THOSE ARE NOT ISOLATED
INCIDENTS.
THEY MAY BE MORE DRAMATIC, BUT
THIS SYSTEM IS NOTORIOUSLY ROAN
YOUS.
THERE'S A CITY IN CALIFORNIA, 7%
OF THE HITS -- 7 1% OF THE HITS
WERE THE LONG LICENSE PLATES.
AND I BELIEVE BECAUSE IT IS A
MASS SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM, IT'S
UNCONSTITUTIONAL AS WELL.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT'S NOT ONLY NOT SAFE, IT'S
UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
PETER: TO YOUR POINT, I DID A
GOOGLE NEWS SEARCH OF FLOCK
CAMERAS, AND THESE WERE THE
FIRST THREE RESULTS; OFFICER
ALLEGEDLY USED CAMERAS TO TRACK
BOYFRIEND'S EX-WIFE, SIX
SAVANNAH POLICE EMPLOYEES PLACED
ON LEAVE OVER POSSIBLE MISUSE OF
FLOCK CAMERAS AND NORTH CAROLINA
POLICE INVESTIGATED TEN CASES OF
MISUSE BY OFFICERS.
IS IT JUST ME OR IS THIS A LOT
LIKE THE DAYS OF EDWARD SNOWDEN
WHERE HE TAUGHT US ALL ABOUT
THESE MASS SURVEILLANCE TOOLS,
AND A BIG PART OF HIS POINT WAS
PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE
GOVERNMENT WILL USE THESE THINGS
TO STALK EXES OR STALK THE CUTE
GIRL ACROSS THE HALL OR OTHERS
WHO ARE NOT POLICE TARGETS.
RIGHT.
AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT, WE'VE
SEEN DOZENS OF CASES NOW OF ROAD
OFFICERS MISUSING THIS
TECHCHNOLOGY.
AND SINCE ANTHONY FAUCI'S BACK
IN THE NEWS, CAN YOU IMAGINE
WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED DURING
COVID IF SOMEONE LIKE ANTHONY
FAUCI WOULD HAVE HAD THE ABILITY
TO TRACK PEOPLE, TO ENCOURAGE
LOCAL AND STATE HEALTH K.S TO
TRACK -- DEPARTMENTS TO TRACK
PEOPLE USING TECHNOLOGY LIKE
THIS?
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A COMPLETE
DYSTOPIA.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES, AS
YOU SAY, PRIVACY, ABUSE,
ULTIMATELY WARRANTLESS MASS
SURVEILLANCE WHICH IS ANATHEMA
TO AMERICA.
PETER THERE ARE SOME SUCCESS IS
STORIES WITH THIS.
THERE'S A 17-YEAR-OLD LAST MONTH
WHO WAS KILLED IN A HIT AND RUN
IN BAKERSFIELD, CALIFORNIA.
POLICE SAY THAT THEY CAUGHT THE
DRIVER IN THIS HIT AND RUN WITH
FLOCK CAMERAS.
WHAT HAVE THE POLICE IN YOUR
COUNTY TOLD YOU ABOUT WANTING TO
HAVE TOOLS TO SOLVE CRIMES LIKE
THAT?
WELL, SURE.
AND, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ABOUT
DEPRIVING THEM OF TOOLS, IT'S
ABOUT FIGURING OUT HOW THESE
TOOLS CAN BE USED IN AN
APPROPRIATE MANNER THAT IS
CONSISTENT WITH THE
CONSTITUTION.
AND AS WE'VE SEEN WITH DOZENS OF
CASES, THEY HAVE BEEN ABUSED.
THIS IS NOT THE LAST TIME WE'LLL
ALSO HAVE THIS DEBATE ABOUT NEW
TECHNOLOGY EMERGING.
AND UNTIL IT'S READY TO GO AND
UNTIL THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS PUT
IN PLACE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A
NATIONWIDE PAUSE AT LEAST PUT ON
THE DEPLOYMENT OF THESE FLOCK
CAMERAS.
THERE IS NO FEDERAL REGULATORY
THE FRAMEWORK MANY PLACE THAT
GOVERNS THEM.
THE LAWS REGARDING LICENSE PLATE
READERS IN TENNESSEE, FROM 2014
WITH ONE VERY MINOR UPDATE IN
2021, THE TECHNOLOGIES HAS
ADVANCED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE
THEN.
SO WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THE
TOOLS THAT THEY NEED, AT THE
SAME TIME THOSOSE TOOLS HAVE TO
CONFORM TO THE CONSTITUTION.
PETER: THE FOLKS AT FLOCK KNEW
WE WERE GOING TO TALK TO YOU.
THEY SENT US A STATEMENT SAYING
DATA IS DELETED AFTER 30 DAYS BY
DEFAULT, BUT YOU MADE A GREAT
POINT, MAYOR JACOBS, ABOUT WHAT
SOMEBODY LIKE ANTHONY FAUCI
MIGHT HAVE DONE WITH THIS STUFF
IF HE HAD IT FIVE YEARS AGO.
WE WILL STAY ON TOP OF THIS.