# LIVE: Flock Panics Amid Backlash as Their DARK Secrets are EXPOSED | Sunday w/ Seth # Man In America — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=majtIbaDNyk Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. Thank you so much for being here live tonight. This is Sunday with Seth, where we take a look at some of the big things that happened this past week, but we also look ahead or at what are the important stories that are coming. And we've got a great show planned for you tonight. There's some really exciting things happening right now in this country specifically, but there's also some very frightening things happening and we're be getting into a lot of these details now before we jump into today's show talking about flock and palunteer and China and the surveillance state and the future of America. Just a few housekeeping notes. 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And so, if you want to listen instead of just watch, if you go to your favorite podcast app, whether it's Apple Podcast or Podbean or Spotify, just search for Man in America and you'll find me on there. And if you're already listening, especially on Apple Podcasts, and you want to really make my day, leave a review on there because Apple prioritizes shows that have a lot of those reviews coming in. and Apple podcast somehow doesn't seem to be as censored as a lot of the other places and so you know we're growing our audience on there and so if you do leave that little review on there it does help to grow hopefully even more. Okay, so getting into today's show, flock. What the flock is happening to this country? Well, there's a lot of interesting stuff going on. Um, and so I'm going to be pulling up some articles here. Uh, I want to start with this one, though. So, this is, um, the flock CEO has apologized for calling activists terrorists, right? So specifically, um I covered this in my last uh show last Sunday, my live show. It was really kind of focused on a lot of the same issues, but the CEO of Flock had basically come out and he was referring specifically to this organization, you might call an organization um kind of citizen-driven uh you know, kind of grassroots movement, but uh called Dlock, which has been tracking the flock cameras. it's been giving you tools on how to resist these cameras in your local city councils and your local regions. And so in an interview, he had basically called this a terrorist organization, uh referring to it as kind of comparing it to Antifa, right? So the same organization that was burning building downs and and beating up people for carrying American flags and wearing red hats. um he's referring to Dlock kind of in the same vein as Antifa and so there has been massive backlash though and so he's actually as it says here he's come out and apologized right so this is an article I'm not going to read the whole thing um so as the movement against $ 8.3 billion flock safety's license plate readers gathers momentum company's CEO Garrett Langley tells Forbes he shouldn't have called nonviolent activists, terroristic organizations. Yeah, that's bad PR. Okay, so here he is. This is uh Mr. Garrett. This is the guy that's now probably worth over a billion dollars. Not sure what ownership he has of the company, but he's, you know, a very wealthy man considering the valuations in, you know, 7 billion, 8 billion plus. And so this is him next to his cameras and his drone. Uh, so it says here, "For the past two years, Will Freeman has been advocating against [clears throat] Flock Safety, an 8.3 billion dollar surveillance company that tracks vehicles with a network of over 80,000 cameras. His organization, Deflock, crowdsourced a map that shows where the company's cameras are located and helps local grassroots movements organized against flock deployments. In an interview with Forbes last year, Flock CEO Garrett Langley described Deflock as a terroristic organization. But now, as Flock faces an increasingly vit vitriolic public backlash, Langley says he regrets that label. He says, "My comments were a mistake and I apologize. There are groups today that have valid criticisms of the business and I think what's changed for us is as we've listened to them and heard them out, what we're trying to do is find this balance. We believe in a world where we can have safety and privacy. Now, my my kind of guess is why he's going on this apology tour is because there has just been massive backlash. And this is encouraging to me. It it really is because I mean I'm not sure how long you've been watching this show, Men in America, but I've been kind of screaming from the rooftops about the threats of digital ID of a this uh digital control grid of losing our freedoms here in America to a technocratic system. And I'm sure that you've been probably telling a lot of your friends and family this as well. And up until really, I'd say kind of six months ago or so ago, a lot of people just turned a blind eye. They didn't really want to hear about it. If you're warning them and you're saying, "Hey, here's why I would never drive a Tesla cuz the government can turn it off remotely." They look at you kind of sideeyed, right? Or if you're pointing out all the security cameras and you're warning people about them, I think a lot of the general public was not that interested in them. I mean, look at how many people have put Ring cameras all over their front doors. And now we know that that Ring camera has formed this massive surveillance network that you're paying for. You're paying a subscription to fuel this massive surveillance network. But things are changing and I think that the first the first big thing in this shift was the data centers. And so obviously the data centers are still a very hot topic right now, but it was what what was happening is that it was the stories of how these data centers were affecting average Americans. And I find that that's one of the things that really tips the the the scales, right? That's kind of what puts you past that tipping point because you could be spending a lot of time as many of you have and as I've heard certainly have. You could be putting a lot of energy and effort into trying to warn people about the different agendas to bring about some sort of new world order, some sort of global tyranny. And people just they'd rather talk about the Super Bowl. Um, however, it's when these when these agendas start affecting the average American in real ways, real ways such as energy costs doubling or tripling in their area, such as water costs going up or water being polluted or light pollution or noise pollution from these big data centers or them seeing this beautiful farmland that they grew up, you know, kind of staring at or driving next to their whole life has now become this, you know, massive, massive data facility. A lot of everyday Americans are saying, "Hey, you know, this isn't good. I don't like this." And so that has really started this big movement, I'd say, in America of people kind of starting to wake up to the threat of this digital tyranny. And that's encouraging to me. Like that's it's like, okay, it's a first step. Just like the pandemic, the pandemic woke a lot of people up to the evil agendas of the pharmaceutical medical industrial complex of the abilities of a government to lock someone down or do tra you tracking and tracing or prevent you from seeing your grandmother in a nursing home uh unless you've got some experimental shot in your arm. And so these things are actually causing a I guess you could say a great awakening which is a good thing. And so we went from data centers because I I've you know spent a lot of my time tracking okay what are the trends I I really try my best to understand especially for people here in America right this is man in America and that's where I live it's where I was born I'm raised and I have no intention of leaving this country and so I spend a lot of my time not just researching important stories or things that are I think interesting to share with you but I also try to understand where the general public is because it's the general public that will determine the fate of this nation. And if the vast vast majority of people in this country just couldn't care about the surveillance state as long as they have their bread and circuses and they have their Netflix and their football games, they'll do whatever it takes. They'll get a shot in their arm. They'll get a digital ID. They'll put a camera on their front door. They'll accept this, you know, surveillance camera being sitting right in their neighborhood. If the majority of Americans were okay with that, to me, that's a a great cause for concern. But if a lot of Americans, and we're I think we're hitting a majority, hopefully are becoming more aware of of the more nefarious aspects of this technology that I think can create a much more important movement in rejecting it. And so what I've noticed is that flock cameras have become a mainstream issue. And this is really, really good. And because I'm seeing a lot of news clips just on, as I'm looking through, researching, you know, ABC, your local news stations, they're talking about these flock cameras and they're talking about the threat to privacy. They're talking about the Fourth Amendment. They're talking about, hey, is this constitutional? And so, this is really, really encouraging. Um, but you also have people that are kind of even going further and really, really digging into this company. So, I'm going to play uh this video for you. It's about 2 minutes and there is a a guy I apologize I forget his name who has a he's a pretty big YouTuber and this is him and so he tracked down one of the kind of main flock employees which he'll explain this and he starts interviewing him and so this is the kind of citizen journalism and the kind of citizen action grassroots action that I hope that we can see more of right and because and this guy is just he's just expressing his own rights that are granted to us by the Constitution. So, I'll play this for you. It is, like I say, about two minutes, a little over two minutes long. U I'll play the first minute, 45 or so. And uh just check this out. I'll go and full screen it for you. Flock. What are you with Flock? No, there's a construction firm I work with CSV. This man, James Boyce, is a former British Army veteran and a current Flock supply chain manager. Not only did he lie about working for Flock, which I'm guessing is probably normal at this company, but he also implied to Georgia law enforcement that I could have been armed. And we'll soon see if that puts my life in danger. You guys have done nothing wrong. Actually, we've also done nothing wrong. And yet, we're blockaded by a police officer. Are we being detained? The manager wants to speak. It's a yes or no question, sir. You're going to wait here until the manager talks. You're holding me until that guy talks, but you're not telling if I'm going to be detained at all. Yeah, you are. Am I allowed to leave? I'll get in my car. Can I go in my car and leave? They are with Flock Safety. They just confirmed. How you doing? Hey, I'm good. What's up, brother? Hey, how you doing, sir? Good. So, tell them what you need to tell. So, gentlemen, I just want to be very clear. Um, there's a multi-tenant site here with a lot of people that are just trying to work. I've got yourself and all everyone running in the street. I had to put my brakes on just to stop to make sure you're okay. Are you safe right now, sir? Uh, well, I don't know that. Do I? So, I just want to make sure we've had reports that you've been to basically every flock safety site and facility that you know of and correct? Yeah. So, your surveillance is correct. We're doing our own surveillance. So, people don't really feel safe right now with people randomly trying to get into our sites and buildings. Oh, wait. You don't feel safe being surveiled. Is that what you're saying? Not at all, sir. Cuz that's what you guys do to us without our consent. Okay. And I think it's interesting when you guys have this happen, you call the police and make us get stopped, but then you do it and it's okay. I mean, our device will call the police regard. What we'd like you to do is basically we're saying that you're trespassing on this site and we'd like you to leave peacefully. After Flock called the police and had us detained, I immediately filed a public records request for the police reports and body cam footage. In Georgia, by law, a city or police department has 3 days to respond to a foyer request. I didn't even get an acknowledgement response for 10 days. And so that's just a good example of this guy was a I forget what level he was within I think he was you know in distribution but he was also ex British army. I forget what exactly what he was but anyway you can see though that you're seeing more of these kinds of videos. You're seeing more uh public scrutiny on these individuals. Now, I'm not going to get into it yet in the show, but I will be touch what I'll be talking about in a little bit here is how Flock is just the tip of the iceberg. And and this is the important point here. And I'm going to be hammering on this point multiple times throughout this show, is that Flock is just one company. So Flock is just this little spoke in this giant wheel of the censorship industrial complex that is slowly strangling the United States of America and basically trampling all over the Fourth Amendment. And so that's part of what I'm trying to do with this show is to say, "Hey, make sure that you're aware of this happening, but don't get too focused on this that you miss what's really going on." Right? because we're seeing and I'll be getting into this that you're seeing that there's a lot of flock contracts being cancelled but they're actually being replaced by flock competitors and we'll be getting into that in a little bit here but the pardon [clears throat] me um I'm going to play another video for you because this is actually one of the big things. So Flock has continually said that this this data that they're that they're you know they're accessing is it's private. It's really secure. It's you know not going anywhere else. Yep. This right here is a video I will play. This is from a Cleveland uh councilman talking about what's referred to as a side door in Flock Software. So, I'll play this for you. It's about a minute long, but this is a really important part of this overall discussion. So, here I am having conversations and I believe that only Cleveland has access. And now we hear that there's a, as we're calling it now, a side door access to to information, right? Um, this is why nobody trusts Flock, right? Is because you don't you have to find the answers on your own, right? I think everybody in the administration understands council's position on this, but yet every time we we take two steps forward, we're taking one back because a side door opens. And that's the frustrating part of this piece of legislation is that when I'm told only Cleveland's going to have access to it, and then we learned that the Fusion Center will now have access or has access to Cleveland's information through Flock. that level of trust just falls again. So basically, so what he's referring to is that a lot of these city councilors councils are being told, "Hey, we're going to put these flock cameras in your area and you know just your local police departments or your local area is going to have access to some information." But what he's discussing here with this side door is that that data is being sent to what what he refers to as these fusion centers. And so these fusion centers are what then build this national database, right? And so in some of these searches, they discovered that say a small town's flock cameras were being accessed by police departments all across the nation. Okay? And so this is the this is and this is really the crux of the matter, right? Because if you have say a red light camera that is capturing, you know, if you're blowing through a red light and it captures your license plate for going through red light and you get a ticket in the mail, you know, that information I again, I don't know the specifics of who runs these red light cameras, but I'd imagine that that kind of information is staying within a local region, right? There's no reason for the police chief in Houston to check on whether you're running a red light in some rural town in Indiana. And so the problem though is that people are discovering that all this the data that Flock is gathering is going into this larger database that then is being accessed by police departments across the nation. uh in addition to all kinds of other agencies, federal agencies, etc. that are then kind of peering into this data. And so, and this is what this is what you one of the aggravating things with this is that I don't have the the specific cost. I'm sure it kind of varies per region, but from my own research, a local police department is paying roughly $3,000 per year per camera. Right? So, this is your taxpayer money that is being used to fund your local police department. And so, they're paying roughly $3,000 per camera per year to access that data to keep us safe. Right now, look, and I've got a lot of problem with taxes in general, but however, right, I'm f like I'm not a defund the police kind of guy. Like I believe if there is a constitutional sheriff and if the police in my region are following and enforcing the constitution, I believe that they should have the funds to properly do that. Right? This is you. It's like if someone shows up in my front yard with a shotgun and is threatening to me and I call 911, like I want the local police officers to show up and take care of that threat. And I think that that's a service that they offer. But if my tax dollars are then actually being paid to Flock, right, and then Flock is selling back selling my data to the local police department. That's where I have an issue. And that's actually the thing that really really bothers me with this because when you use Google, right, or you use say you have a Gmail and you use single sign on, when you create your account, you're you know, saying yes, I agree to this. And the part of the reason why Google is free is because it's collecting data on you. Part of the reason why Gmail is free is because it's collecting data on you. It then uses that data. It sells that data to advertisers. But you're entering into that relationship contractually. But what's happening though is that you have a third-party private company that is collecting a massive amount of data on me, on you, on every person in America that is within the vicinity of these cameras. It's collecting that data on me and selling it to these police departments and other agencies that are being funded by our taxpayer dollars. Okay? And then Flock is now turning it's now an eight and a half billion dollar company. So they've got roughly a h 100,000 of these cameras across the nation. And so just think about if one camera is pay you they're making 300,000 or sorry $3,000 a year per camera then if my math serves me correctly I think it's somewhere like what $300 million it's kind of quick math I didn't do it so yeah it's roughly yeah 3,000 time 100,000 that's that many zeros and it's it's anyway it's it's a lot of money okay I went to art school so don't don't quiz me on my instant math uh especially with lots of zeros So anyway, that's one of the issues that I have. But it's not just that. It's people are then realizing a their privacy is being invaded. The it's going to these data centers. It's having access like that. There's all that kind of nefarious stuff happening. But we're also seeing like case on case on case of people that have access within police forces, people that have access to these cameras that are misusing them. And so it's like almost every day I'm seeing a new headline about you, hey, these three police officers were arrested here. These were fired over here because they were using this flock camera data to illegally track and surveil people. So I've got a video here I'm going to show you. Um this is down I think in uh down in Georgia if I remember correctly, right? It says multiple police officers are being removed from their positions across the country after they were caught using flock cameras to stalk and track their own their own family members. So, I'll play this for you right here. This is and this is Atlanta if I remember correctly. So, this is a little under under two minutes. I'm going to play this clip for you though because this is really it highlights what's happening with the police, but it's also highlighting the uh the movement of rejecting this uh technology. Yes, I did. People that I spoke to in the Fateville area call this very alarming that police officers are using those flot cameras for their own purposes. They say that this raises new questions about privacy, accountability, and how the technology is monitored. For many, fly cameras are supposed to make communities safer. But after three officers allegedly abused the system for personal reasons, some residents are questioning whether the technology has enough safeguards. I don't think they should be misused for personal use or any other useless it's for a legal reason. According to the Fateville Police Department, the officers improperly use the license plate reader technology to look for relatives and acquaintances. Actions the department says fell outside of the scope of their duties. Now, some residents are calling for stronger oversight. They should be for that specific purpose. if they're able to use it for all these other reasons like tracking people. Either they need a new company that has protections on the gear to where you can't do all that stuff or there needs to be some checks and balances on it. Atlanta News First reached out to Flock Safety. The company's CEO says while the allegations are disappointing, it also demonstrates that agencies can detect misuse. It's a disappointing story when I see it, but I also go, look, this is working. This is showing that if you use a tool like Flock or other tools, you should be held accountable regardless of whether you have a badge or you don't. This all comes as Flock cameras continue to face scrutiny across metro Atlanta. In some communities, opponents have even vandalized or removed the cameras. Fagatville resident Willie Wells says the latest incident only reinforces his concerns. They're unconstitutional and they have to pay us for our data. Okay, we're becoming a police state. We got to stop it. We got to stop it. I mean, kudos to that guy. He says, "We're becoming a police state and we've got to stop it." And so, you are again, you are seeing this this resistance happening. Um, now this is in a post from uh about 6 months ago or so. This is from uh Jason Basselor over on X and he's saying these are the cities that have said no to surveillance contracts. So there are a lot of cities that are rejecting these surveillance contracts and you're also seeing there's a lot of departments that are cancelling their contracts. I mean LAPD um they're not renewing their contracts. I believe that they're not going to be using anymore. The cameras are still going to be in place. But um similar to the data centers, you're seeing that the the mass resistance to this is taking an effect and that's really really important. However, I want to highlight though that as I mentioned before, flock is just one layer, right? Flock is just one spoke on the wheel of this technocratic surveillance state. And so I'm going to pull something up now. This it's a great little post here. This is uh from this guy William Murphy um over on Twitter. He says, "Flock is just one layer. The surveillance economy combines ALPR, which is the license plate reading technology, facial recognition, AI analytics, data brokers, and police cloud systems. The issue isn't one camera. It's building a permanent behavioral database where movement, identity, and associations become searchable." Now, um, and I will be getting into, um, Axon more in a little bit here. And I'm also going to be talking about cell phones because I know that a lot of people in last night or sorry, last week's live show were asking, are these cameras tracking your cell phone location? So, I have some stuff to show you about that. Okay, but I want to continue here. So, okay, he's kind of describing the different layers of this system. So, you have Flock safety. He says that Flock builds automated license plate reader networks. So, that's ALPR. It's automated license plate reader networks that allow law enforcement agencies to track vehicles across jurisdictions. The concern is turning everyday movement into a searchable historical record. Then you have Axon Enterprise says Axon moved beyond tasers and body cameras into a broader police technology ecosystem. Digital e ev evidence real-time operations drones and AI assisted tools. The future of policing is increasingly datadriven. Three, Palunteer Technologies. Palanteer specializes in integrating massive data sets for intelligence analysis. Its platforms are used by governments, militaries, law enforcement, and immigration agencies. The power is not collecting one piece of data. It's connecting them all. And that's what Palunteer does. Palunteer in a lot of ways acts as this central brain that all this information feeds into. Okay. You have clear view AI. So Clear View AI built facial recognition systems using billions of collected images. Biometric surveillance raises a fundamental question. What happens when your identity becomes a permanent searchable record? Okay. Then he talks about uh Verata. Verata provides cloud connected security cameras used by businesses, schools and institutions. Centralized surveillance creates centralized risk, data breaches, unauthorized access and abuse. Motorola solution. So Motorola also is doing a lot of these these cameras. Um but there there says they've expanded from radios into command centers, police communications, video security, public safety, analytics. Then you have Amazon, right? So Amazon's Ring ecosystem has now connected millions of these doorbell cameras. Uh then you have Hickvision or Hikevision. I like Hickvision and Dahwa Technology which are companies of major global surveillance camera manufacturers. Then you um he kind of highlights okay this is the important point. He says, "The real danger is not of one company or one camera. It's the convergence of cameras, license plate tracking, biometrics, location data, AI analytics, and data brokers." He says, "A society can drift into total surveillance one security improvement at a time." And here he goes, "The central political question is who owns the data generated by society? If corporations and states control the infrastructure of observation, ordinary people become the objects being monitored rather than the subjects that are shaping society. And so now he mentioned a few things, a few different companies here which I'm going to um highlight. So first one is Axon. And so Axon originally was they really focused that they're they did tasers, right, which are used by police forces. And look, I'm a fan of tasers. Like if you can if you can neutralize a threat with a taser. Say a guy's got a knife and he's kind of acting crazy and if you can just tase him and then arrest him, hey, good. Tasers are very effective, non-lethal, uh, you know, means of force. Um, they also do the police body cams, right? So, a lot of times if you see the police footage released, you might see the Axon logo on there. Um, they're a major manufacturer of police body cams. However, Axon also has this vehicle intelligence part. So, right here, Axon also makes basically the same thing that Flock does. So, they have their ARP ALPR um live video cameras here, right? So, similar to a Flock camera, you'll see an Axon. And so this is something to to just to kind of bring to your attention is that a lot of places are cancelling flock contracts, but they're just replacing them with Axon contracts. So it's it's they're completely just pulling a stunt and saying, "Oh, okay. So we're not going to put, you know, uh we're not going to point a gun at you or we're not going to point a rifle at you." It's like, "Oh, thank you. Stop. Okay, it's great. we're going to point a pistol at you instead. It's like, well, hold on. Both have the same thing. Like, they're both going to potentially shoot me. And that's exactly what's happening. And so, this is something to be aware of, is that, and this is why I said it's important to focus on flock, but don't get stuck in the weeds with flock. Don't think that if you can stop flock from coming into your own city council and selling them on it and getting cameras all over your area, don't think it's this huge win if you just get rid of flock. Because if the flock disappears, we're seeing a lot of areas are just replacing them with axon. Now, the good thing with these similar flock is that you can spot them, right? You can see them. You a you can find them on the D flock map, but also if you're driving, you know what this looks like. It's you'll see this big black pole. You'll see a little solar panel on top of it and you have a camera mounted on there. It's like, okay, hey, that's a security camera. That's a flock or it's an axon. But here's where it gets scary is that Axon also has this other thing. Okay, let's see. Let me scroll down. Called Axon light post. So the Axon light post. I'm sure EQ if you can see it there. So what this is is this is a little camera. Let's see if I can zoom in for you. Yep, there you go. So, Axon Lightost is basically just retrofitting one of their exact cameras. So, the same flock camera you would see, the same technology, everything. Instead of putting it on a pole where you can spot it, these are built to just attach to light posts. And so, you might be driving around somewhere and you might see no flock cameras, but these things are sitting up on the light posts. And this is a concern because that's a lot easier to hide. Okay. And so now then so he says you know Axon's new works with Axon program means that these cameras can you know work with multiple agencies and multiple you know kind of thirdparty cameras can plug in and they have their platform that brings it all say of Axon Fus which connects every stream into one operational view so that agencies can search respond and build cases faster from a single platform. Okay. So now Axon, this company here, again, keep just keep an eye out for Axon. Um, and so then there's a lot of people that I'm not sure I'm not going to bring bring us into politics. I think that politics by this point in my life, I think that politics is a complete scam. However, there's a lot of people that think, oh well, Trump is going to save us from this. You know, Trump is, you know, the the White Hats are, you know, they're protecting us and everything. Um, I can show you this, though. So Trump's account, right, they they bought up to $5 million in Axon two weeks before ICE sought a $220 million government contract. So not only is that insider trading, but you know, Trump's own account is investing in Axon, okay? Which again, I wouldn't be surprised. You know, you might see this happen often times. You know, it's like within a war, they will send out an enemy first that's going to draw fire, that's going to, you know, kind of deplete the resources of whoever they're fighting against. They might know that that thing is going to die first only to be replaced by the other thing quietly. And so, just be aware of this is that we might see I mean, look, maybe there's so much backlash against Flock that maybe the company goes under in a year or two, right? And it's like this huge thing. Okay. Hey, we we kind of David took down Goliath. However, you might see companies like Axon that are just quietly replacing and quietly putting the exact tech technology in, but maybe this time they got smart and they're saying, "Hey, it's actually too obvious if you have these poles everywhere. So, we're going to attach these to lights." Okay? And so, just be aware that, you know, Trump is invested in this company. And I'm not sure, you know, they they bought Let's see if the article shows. Okay? So, it says that a federal ethics filing shows an account in Trump's name bought between$1 and $5 million of a Ex Axon shares uh Axon sock. And 14 days later, the US Immigration Customs Enforcement, ICE, posted a notice seeking a 5-year, $220 million contract for Stun Guns. Okay, so let's see. Does it say how much they made? Uh, no. It doesn't kind of give any indication. I'm guessing though that that stock completely surged after that. So now look, maybe it was just a little bit of insider trading. Hey, let's make some money, whatever. But that he's he's investing in this infrastructure. Okay, so think of it what you might. Now again, if we're looking at the investment and the money behind these things, you've also got Palunteer. As I mentioned, Palanteer is sitting in the middle of all of this, right? And again, I got to say, you know, Palunteer under Trump has become insanely linked with our government, right? You know, when Elon Musk was coming in and Doge, it was like, hey, it was really exciting. We're exposing all this, you know, corruption and waste. But what's also happening is that you're seeing all of these big tech companies getting really cozy with the federal government with Palunteer being one of the central ones. And say, okay, well, what's Palunteer have to do with Flock? Well, Flock right here, back in 2025, so a little over a year ago, they secured almost a quarter billion dollars in funding. So, right here, accelerating innovation, Flock secures $275 million uh to advance crimesolving technology. Oh, yeah. Great. And this is the other thing, too, is that what you mean crimesolving, you know, technology. I think it was Linen. I think it was I think it was Lynon who said something to the effect of basically give me the man and I'll find his crimes. Okay, like they can find crimes if they want to and so crimesolving technology. Now we know what flock is really about. However, if you look at who's financing this, okay, so we have Andre Horowit. So Mark Anderson is a guy who runs Substack. So just be aware of that. Um but right here you've also got the Founders Fund, right? So Founders Fund is basically Peter Teal and some other wealthy people as well. But so Peter Teal is an investor in flock and this is what you see is that as you get move up and up and you start to see this this kind of industrial complex of surveillance and data gathering and AI and everything it's a very small club and there's a very small amount of people you kind of all things considered that are funding and owning a significant amount of this technology. It's very centralized. And so if you look at Palunteer, it's really important that when you're looking at companies like Palunteer or Peter Teal that you understand that there the relationship, okay, even looking at flock. So what's happened is that the government is bound by the constitution. So the government itself can't come in and put these flock cameras everywhere. It has to be done by a private company. And same thing with Palunteer, right? So the government can't have this database and all this stuff for you know for analyzing all this data to be you kind of used against people to be monitoring its citizens because it's violating the fourth amendment. However, these private companies can and this is a I'm not going to get too heavy into this theme but it's something that's very very important to understand is that from my own understanding and my own research a lot of Silicon Valley is just a front for the military-industrial complex. It's like Facebook. He's like, "Oh, Facebook, yeah, this, you know, genius Mark Zuckerberg in his garage built this company." No, Facebook was basically DARPA's lifelog rebranded. Okay, so a lot of the big companies that we see, especially getting into social media, which can be a really good tool for social engineering, uh, a lot of the data, you know, stuff we're seeing with Palunteer, Oracle, etc. These companies have their origin in the United States government. even SpaceX, a lot of what's backed Elon has been big DoD contracts. And so, if you're looking at Palunteer specifically, I'll give you an example and just apply this to a lot of these other companies. So, look here. This is a I'm going to play a short video here. I'll play about a maybe a minute or two of it. This is Whitney Webb, who I've been trying to interview for a long time. So, if you know Whitney, then please say, "Hey, you should go on Seth's show because I really want to interview Whitney Webb." But listen to her giving a little bit of the history of Palunteer. Like I said, I'll play about a minute or two of this because she she's brilliant and she can talk about a lot of stuff. But anyway, let's just take a look at this is the formula for how the government can violate the constitution is because the government just creates these companies. is it turns them into private companies that have these massive government contracts and basically the government is then bypassing the constitution through private companies. It's really kind of the same thing of how the government can go assassinate world leaders and everything because they're not doing it. They're paying some private black ops company, some private contractor to go do it for them. So I'll play this for you. This is Whitney Webb, Peter Teal. Um, as an example, uh, Palunteer has been in the news, right? He's a co-founder of that. So, how was Palunteer created? Well, there was this company that was being run, not company, sorry. It was a government um, program after 911 called Total Information Awareness. It was housed within the Pentagon's DARPA office. And the man they chose to put in charge of that was John Po Dexter, who was the highest ranking member of the Reagan administration to be indicted for his role in Iran Contra. um which again the continuity of government stuff is is relevant here. So um eventually uh you know it launches and whatever but uh people in are outraged by it because as they rightly point out as they rightly pointed out um it would uh eliminate constitutional protections of Americans rights specifically the right to privacy among other things. It was a huge surveillance drag net and its goal wasn't just to um you know surveil everything. It was to um [clears throat] predict crime before it happens, predict terror attacks before it happens. I mean, it's like minority report was basically the end goal of it. Um and so after all the push back, they changed the name to terrorist information awareness and try and rebrand. Oh, it's not total. We're not going to we are still going to surveil innocent Americans, but we're focusing on the terrorists. You know, they did all this stuff to try and rebrand it. uh but Congress defunded it. But in hidden in that bill, Congress allowed aspects of it to continue. Um, and essentially, um, I argue in in my work on Palunteer that an effort was made to privatize large aspects of TIA as Palanteer because when Alex Karp and and Peter Teal were setting it up, they went to John Po Dexter through this guy named Richard Pearl, uh, who was a a ne long-standing neocon actor with very extensive ties also to the state of Israel. He was like caught in the 70s giving classified information to Israel's embassy and should have gone to jail and somehow did not. Um, and had a lot of ties also to Netanyahu's first government. And he Richard Pearl is the guy that connected uh Teal Karp to Po Dexter and they wanted they basically wanted to talk to Po Dexter because they wanted to recreate total information awareness and saw him as the godfather of modern mass surveillance. So there you go. Right. And that is the story that we see over and over and over again with these big tech companies. Now, I want to actually highlight a comment that I saw in the chat. Uh let's see. Okay. Um let me see. Let me make it a little bigger for you. Okay. So, Tomahawk, right? Thanks for being here, Tomahawk, and thanks for encouraging those likes. Yeah, remember to hit that like button. Thank you. Thank you, Tomahawk. He he says, "The revolution won't be against the government. It will be against the tech bros." And I would say they're one and the same. Right? So, and that's the thing. This is what we have to realize, right? Is that in many ways they are one of the same is that the government is the tech bros, right? Look at Oracle. Look at, you know, all these massive companies. So many of them started based upon massive government contracts. started within Inqutel or different arms of the government being able to invest in companies started within DARPA or ARPA, right? And so this is how they've done it though is that they have hidden these nefarious activities within these private companies. And this is the this is the big big issue here is what does this lead to, right? Because our founders, they warned against this exact thing. They warned against a federal government gaining too much control over its people. And and I'll be getting into China and I'll be getting into where this could potentially lead in a little bit here. But this is the big issue is that what happens when the government gains this much control over its people, especially when the government is hiding this through private companies, through university grants and research, etc. That's not a good thing. Now, I want to continue because people were asking about the cell phones. Okay, so I'm going to pull this up from uh this is from Paulie. Amazing Paulie, who's wonderful. I wish she was producing videos like she used to be. She used to be very active, but she's still very very good person to follow. And one thing that she's been highlighting a lot is that cell phones, right? So, as much as we're trying to resist flock cameras and the surveillance state, the sad reality of this is that as long as you're carrying your smartphone, that smartphone is the most potent tool in the surveillance state. So, here's a post that she says. She's sharing a I think a chat she had with the AI and she had asked what has more potential to invade privacy and create a police state, a nationwide network of traffic cameras or hundreds of millions of people in that same area carrying smartphones with them. And the response was hundreds of millions of people carrying smartphones poses a significantly greater threat to privacy and the creation of a police state than a nationwide network of traffic cameras. Smartphones act as voluntary, all-encompassing surveillance devices that collect intimate 24/7 data, making them vastly more dangerous to civil liberties than stationary traffic or license plate readers. And this is the tricky part is, and I I struggle with this because I do a lot of my work from my phone. I have a smartphone and I have been on the fence for quite some time now and my wife as well and thinking, should we just go back to a dumb phone? And I think that I probably will, right? It's the same reason why probably sometime in late summer or fall. I'm gonna, you know, sell one. We have a couple, you know, we have two vehicles and they're both newer vehicles that I think I'm going to we're going to sell one of them and I'm going to get like an old 80s Bronco. That's probably what I'm going to be leaning towards. But like I don't want a smart car. I I want a car that is a dumb car. I want to be able to turn my air conditioning on with a knob and a little manual dial instead of some fancy touchcreen. There's a lot of reasons for that too. However, it's the same thing with cell phones, right? It's like as much as we are resistant to the surveillance state, do we resist it enough that we can get rid of the convenience of this smartphone? And and that's tough, right? It's it really is difficult. Um, but I'm aware though the fact that yeah, these smartphones, these are the center of this. Now, someone had asked on uh last week's show about whether the flock cameras are tracking phones. And so, this is a video I'm going to play for you. And this is a guy showing, literally showing that as he approaches this flot camera that the flock camera is pinging a Bluetooth back and forth to his phone. And this is what's really you really important is that, you know, Flock has said, "Oh, no, look, we're just reading license plate information. We're just doing this very simple task of analyzing the cars and everything." Yet, if that's the case, why is this Flock camera pinging these Bluetooth signals back and forth from this phone? And this is where it gets even more dystopian. So, I'll play this video. I'll play the whole thing, a minute or so, but you can see exactly what's happening here. He does a good job narrating it. So, we are getting this flot camera. It's emitting this connect 36295 Bluetooth signal. Uh, it will randomly emit that. You can see it right there. We observed it 32 seconds ago. I can start this back up and you'll see we'll observe it consistently. Uh, this specific unit is obviously set off by human motion. Whether that's taking a picture of me is questionable, but the IR element definitely is set off from human motion. As you can see, no cards are coming. There's that connect uh signal. It's a Bluetooth signal. You can see at the top there, it's coming from the back of this battery pack. I believe it's coming from that white uh battery module emitting a Bluetooth signal. This looks to be a standard Falcon ALPR unit. So, it's not going to be the AI video powered condo unit. Uh the easiest way to tell is the camera. The IR unit is more towards the top of the camera as opposed to the Condor where they're on the middle. You'll be able to see this triggered by the cars. It's taking six to eight images of each vehicle as it goes by. Uh make, model, color, uh decals, damage, uh and then it's uploading that basically via LTE to Flock OS where it becomes searchable, indexable, uh and they can refer to it later. So very extensive system. Again, we're picking up that connect 36295 signal coming from the what I believe is the BLE battery pack or the battery pack on the back of here giving off a BLE. And so you can see right there that that flot camera for whatever reason is pinging his phone and it's I'm assuming it's collecting location data on that. Now this is where it gets even more frightening. Okay, so there's a technology called signal trace. Now I was not able to confirm whether Flock is using signal trace technology. Actually I I don't have the window open but I'm going to pull up. Let me see. Let me find it real quick. Signal trace. Let me see here. Okay. This company called Leonardo. Um they have this technology called uh signal trace. Now, what signal trace does, it says, okay, here's this little little video. It says, "Okay, think about Okay, I'll I'll turn the music off. I'll I'll narrate this for you because people that are listening on the podcast, they can follow along because this little video they have, it's a bit over a minute long. There's no words, so it just has some cheesy music, but it says, "Think of all the electronic devices that people travel with. smartphones, watches, earphones, fitness trackers, infotainment systems in your car. Okay, it says, "What if law enforcement could identify suspects by the electronic devices they use?" They can. Okay, so signal trace captures the unique signals emitted from each device and creates a digital fingerprint for devices that routinely travel together. So when used along with lean leaner's license plate reader, single trace correlates each digital fingerprint with a a plate. So okay, basically what this is saying, let's just say so this single trace technology, as you can see in the picture here, it shows it right. It's just this uh couple of these white boxes that can be mounted on a pole. Now, no one's talking about this yet. Everyone's focused on Flock. But to me, this is almost worse than Flock because what it does is that when you let's just say you have some AirPods, you have a phone, you have a Bluetooth system in your car, and you have a you're wearing some sort of Apple Watch or Fitbit. All of those devices are emitting wireless signals. Okay? And so what signal trace does as it say it captures the unique signals emitted from each device and creates a digital fingerprint for devices that routinely travel together. And so let's just say that you've got those devices those devices each with their own individual identifying you know IME or whatever the specific numbers are identified by those create a digital fingerprint. And so let's just say that what it kind of highlights here too. Say you're then riding with a friend of yours in their car. That signal trace would potentially know that you're riding in the car even in someone else's car because it would have your digital fingerprint of oh that's uh Bill Johnson wearing this particular uh Apple Watch. He has this pair of Apple headphones and he has this phone with him. And so it creates a fingerprint of that. And so this is where it gets, in my opinion, this is where it gets, you know, even scarier. And so there's actually an the NRA recently published an article, this is back on July 13th, warning about this. It says the NRA is warning about signal trace. It says gun owners may be joining the anti-flock movement. Okay, so here it does a good job of describing this. Says, you drive past a polemounted camera on your way to the range. Your plate gets logged. old news, but your phone, your smartwatch, the RFID tags still tucked inside that new holster box, those might get logged, too. Leonardo's uh ELSAG signal trace represents a significant expansion in law enforcement surveillance, and the NRA is flagging it as a direct threat to firearm owner privacy. Okay. So here, so it says when flock cameras read your plate, signal trace or so where flock cameras read your plate in your car, you know, to create that the the fingerprint of your car, your vehicle, signal trace maps what's writing inside. Leonardo markets the system as a signal intelligence layer for existing ALPR infrastructure. It collects electronic communication patterns from consumer devices and builds what the company calls an electronic fingerprint, a profile of devices that routinely travel together according to Leonardo's own product description. So that they confir the confirmed capabilities break it down like this. Phones, smartwatches, fitness trackers, RFID tags, even tire pressure sensors are among the signals that the system can detect. Signal trace links device clusters to vehicle movement records, creating layered identity profiles. Data may be archived for future queries, unlike some flock systems that claim to delete the records after a set window. And so it says critics argue that this map recurring trip that this could map recurring trips to gun stores, ranges, or FFL dealers, though Leonardo does not explicitly advertise this use case. They say that the data retention detail matters. It's one thing to photograph a plate. It's another to build a persistent digital shadow of everyone riding inside the car. So this is again what we're looking at here is the the entire ecosystem is yes you have the flock cameras you have the different license plate reading cameras you have the axon the you know light mounted ones you now have signal trace which may or may not be attached to a flock camera that their technology can be uh kind of joined together with these license plate reading cameras or it could just be sitting on a light pole somewhere but this is all collecting information on you. Okay. Now, I want to play a video here. Um, this is a uh an interview with Tucker Carlson. I think he was on somebody else's show. It's a minute and a half long because this is important, right? This is the right here. It says, uh, this is from Wideake Wide Awake Media. Great. Oh, sorry. Realize I didn't have that up for you. Okay. It's from Wide Awake Media over on Twitter. It says, "It's to surveill and control you and then to replace you." It says Tucker Carlson warns that an AI powered surveillance state is being constructed in America under the guise of competing with China. So, I'll play this really quickly for you. It's a minute and a half long because this I think actually this is this is the bigger conversation that we all need to be having and thinking about. Tucker Carlson warns that an AI powered surveillance state is being constructed in America under the guise of competing with China. He maintains that AI's true purpose is mass surveillance and control, not improving lives. We're just told, you know, to expect this level of censorship only from foreign governments like China. But when it comes to our foreign wars, our government, and our media class, it just seems like they're engaging in the exact same propaganda and censorship, if not even more. I'm wondering if you've noticed that. Well, I've noticed it at every level with many countries over many years. Of course, I you see it in the justification for AI. Why would you give up your water resources and your electricity to build a data center that you're paying for? Cuz all these data centers are publicly subsidized. Why would you do that? Why would you pay for your own enslavement? What's the point of AI to make your life better? No, of course not. It's to surveil and control you, obviously. And and then to replace you, to replace the knowledge worker class with machines. So, like, how is that in your interest? Well, of course it's not. They're not even trying to tell you that it is. Instead, they say, "Well, we have to before China does, cuz China is like dystopian and bad, and I'm sure not here to defend China, but merely to make the obvious point to expose the obvious, almost hilarious irony, that because we need to quote beat China, we're creating a Chinese-style surveillance state in our own country, the land of my ancestors." And it's like, you should be in prison. Honestly, you should be in prison even saying something like, "What?" And so this is the concern and this is the the sober reality of where we're at as a nation is that our government through the guise of private corporations, universities, you know, public uh you know, utilities, uh you public services, they're building a massive surveillance state in America. It's just the reality of where we are and it is headed full steam. There is an insane amount of money behind this. They are building a digital prison, a potential digital prison here in America. Now, let's just say that you trust the government, which may I'm not sure what planet you're from, but maybe you do. Maybe you actually trust the government and you're thinking that, hey, you know what? it's worth it because we're going to cut down on crime and life's going to be a lot better, which again, I haven't seen any reduction in crime with all this new technology. I mean, maybe I'm looking in the wrong places, but America doesn't feel that much safer now than it did 10, 20 years ago. Actually, I feel like it's kind of the opposite. But the sober reality is that this system is being built. And so even if you trust the current administration, you trust the current government, what happens when the next guy gets in, and this is the this is the real issue here is what happens when the next administration takes over and they say, you know what, our country needs to be even more safe. What happens if there's another terrorist attack like 911, which you could argue the government was heavily involved in that? That's not really an argument anymore. It's almost obvious if you look into it, just you spend a little time researching it. You can see, right, these false flag events create the atmosphere of fear. It creates the atmosphere of the average American saying, "Please protect me. I'm willing to give up a little bit of my privacy, a little bit of my freedom, as long as you'll keep me safe. What we're seeing is that we are on the doorstep of a tyrannical technocratic tech, you know, rulership, right? That this is it's so close to coming here to America. I mean, it's already here. And so I look, we saw under Joe Biden, we saw that people were being considered terrorists for just being pro-America, right? For being patriotic, for questioning, you know, whether the election was was was rigged or not. And so this system they're building, it could so easily be turned against the average American. And unfortunately, the people that this kind of system would be turning against are the people that want their freedoms, right? This system is not going to be, you know, worried about the people that are already on welfare, that are already lining up for their their next booster shot, that are just in complete compliance with the government. Those are the ones aren't really worried about. The ones they're worried about are the people like you and me, the people that have, you know, second amendment, you know, kind of taken care of, the ones that are questioning the government, the ones that are trying to get more outside the system, the ones that see the writing on the wall. These are the people that that a government like this would go after because if you look at the look at history, if you look at the examples of when a a free society has been turned into a tyrannical society, one of the earlier stages of that is eliminating the dissenters. Right? So in China, there was a campaign under Mao. It's called the 100 flowers blossoming campaign where they invited all the intellectuals, all the people that had a better idea of how to run a government. And this is actually when they're under communism and there's a lot of better ways to run the government than communism. They invited all these people to come out and to voice their opinions and to say, "Hey, how can we do better as a government?" And so at towards the end of that campaign, all the people that came forward that were obviously people that were thinking and analyzing and thinking to themselves, hey, this communism is not working. This is bad. All most of those people were either killed, put into labor camps, disappeared. And so that's what happens. And so the people that are freedom-minded, the people that are concerned about tyranny rising and taking over the nation, those are the first people that a tyrannical government will will silence and eliminate. And we've seen it over and over and over again. Even going back to 2020, anybody who questioned COVID, anybody who questioned the election, these people were they were deplatformed. Uh if you know places like the UK, the same people are being arrested, right, for inciting, you know, racism or hatred, for questioning whether the mass immigration was leading to mass rape, which we now know is is has been proven. And this is the concern because if you look at what life is like in communist China, the technology that is being built in this country has the potential to turn life in America into life in communist China. And you can't or you can't get around that point. And actually, I'll play now. I have a little video here. It's maybe 2 minutes long of this is what it looks like in China. So I'll pull this up for you. Okay, this is life in China. So imagine this could be America, right? The infrastructure the infrastructure for this is being built. That's that's the reality of this. The infrastructure for what we're seeing in China is being built here in America. So let me go and make this full screen for you. I think that kind of that works right. Sorry for the kind of odd crop on this, but I'll play this for you. Okay. Today in China, there are some 600 million surveillance cameras, one for every two citizens, able to track people's movements down to the minute. Every street corner, there's facial recognition, there's digital recognition, there's the social credit system. The social credit system is the sort of highest aspiration of the Chinese Communist Party to have everything every human being does go into a computer system. And with AI and all sorts of other sophisticated programming, you can know exactly where a person is because he'll have bought something with a credit card or a digital payment system. His car will have gone down a highway. Every kilometer there's a camera taking pictures of your license plate. they will know everything about everybody real time. This creates [music] a kind of a technocratic system that's unprecedented and with which we've had no experience. So that right there and that's just that's just a small little snippet of it. But that's what life in China is like. You know, there's a lot of zones where you can't enter into a certain zone of Beijing for instance unless you scan your face first. And when they scan you, they're running you, they're running you through this national database where, you know, they're tracking your social credit score. Uh they're monitoring everything that you're doing. And so if you're a political dissident in China, if you're the say man in America version in China where you're questioning the government, oh, good luck. They're going to come after you. And we've seen it over and over again. So they're using this technology to arrest house Christians, right? So people that if you don't practice the official, you know, Chinese Communist Party version of Christianity with their version of the Bible, they will arrest you and put you into into a black prison, which means that you're either doing uh forced labor or maybe they're even harvesting your organs. Very very common. Look at what they did to the fallen gong over there, right? This big, you know, meditation group. There was close to 100 million people doing this in the early in the late 90s. In 99, Jang Zamin came in and he was like, "Hey, this is bad. There's all these people that believe in principles higher than communism and it's this huge movement of people over there like literally the government estimates between 70 and 100 million people and they said we're going to get rid of it. And so they had a huge crackdown where they you and it still continues to this day. But what's happening now is that they're using this same system. They're using this AI technology, this surveillance grid to track these political dissident. So whether it's underground Christians or fallen gong or you know weaguer Muslims they're arresting them they're harvesting their organs they're doing all kinds of terrible things and it's so many people we have this cognitive dissonance this normaly bias that we say oh that will never happen in America it's happening in America yeah maybe they're not arresting the dissonance and harvesting their organs but they're certainly building the digital infrastructure to create an absolute tyranny in this nation and so this is what we have to just be aware of. And so, you know, I don't have all the solutions to this, right? And I always like to have some solutions. I mean, obviously, it's just, you know, get off-rid. Um, get rid of your smartphone, become more self-reliant. There's a lot of things like that which which we can talk about. But the the the biggest solution that I have is that we have to have more Americans wake up to this reality. And that's a lot of the reason why I do this show and why I hope that you can share this show. And it's also why I've really kind of stopped kind of getting into leftright politics is because what it does is that well for a lot a I think it's just a complete scam. But it also then divides us because you might have some people like I don't want to watch that Men in America guy. He's a Trump supporter, right? It's like no, they're all corrupt, right? It's like no, yes, I'm on your side, right? Like I oppose tyranny. Like that's my stance. I am pro- freedom. I am pro good and I am anti- tyranny. I'm anti-communism. I'm anti- socialism. I'm anti-technocracy. And so that's the key here. And so that's one of the biggest things we can do is just try to help more Americans see this for what it is because there's a cage being built around us. And if too many of us are still sleeping while that cage is being constructed, by the time you wake up, you're stuck in it. Right? But right now, the cage isn't complete yet. And what we're seeing, if you look at the resistance that we're seeing with the data centers, the resistance to flock cameras, you can see is a lot of Americans that are starting to get really pissed off about this. And I think similar to the Epstein stuff and the child trafficking crisis, this is one of those issues that can unite us as Americans. This is one of the issues that, you know, you can find your neighbor and you can say, "Hey, look, you know, we may not agree politically, but we can both agree that we don't want this surveillance state being built around us." Um, so you know, I'll take a look at the comments. I've just kind of been going on a little bit of a of a, you know, kind of tirade there, I guess you could say. But let's just check in with the uh the comments and see what's going on here. Um, you know, I love seeing all this activity. Yeah, D the Almighty, Seth, it is. You are correct. Uh, it's happening in Canada. Yeah, amazing faces. Yep. The maid program medically assisted uh in death, you know, kind of medically assisted suicide. Tomahawk, do your push-ups. Yes, do your push-ups. Um, and also, uh, Tomahawk Mary, uh, Tomahawk, uh, wants to marry Lily Creek. So, let's Lily Creek. I'm not sure if you saw that there. Tomahawk wants to marry you. So, if you get married, let me know. It'd be kind of cool to see that. Uh, this was the origins of that. Um, uh, let's see. Hemp Car says, "Why would you desent in China? you can afford housing, education, and healthcare. And they're not bombing anyone. Maybe Hempcar, you need to understand better what life is like in China. Um, yes, some can afford health care, some can afford housing, some can afford education, and yeah, they're not bomb. Yeah, they're not dropping bombs around the world, but they're slaughtering their own people. They're harvesting the organs of their own people. So, you know, it's kind of, you know, I hate saying it's the lesser of two evils, but, you know, I think you need to kind of look a little more on what's really happening in China. There's been a lot of Chinese propaganda saying that, "Oh, look how great China is." I can tell you cuz I've I've been heavily involved in a lot of research on this is that China to this day is still actively arresting, murdering, harvesting the organs of of dissident, whether you're again, house Christians, you know, weaguer Muslims, people that just kind of question the government too much, uh the fallen gong, etc. So, uh yeah, you know, China seems like, you know, they're doing a good job of saying, "Hey, look how great China is." But yeah that that's that's not it. Um but actually so you know one thing that I I am doing I know you've been following this is that we're building the ARC community um as one of the antidotes to this and we we're specifically building it as this platform where we're trying to create this kind of insulation against this right so you can't be cancelled there's no data there's no algorithms but I actually have something very special to show you today um so I have a little video that we um that we made kind of describing the story that's kind of led us to building the ark and the ark is and I know I say this every week that it's like it's almost done cuz it really really is like I I can't I've been I can't wait to show it to you. We've been working non-stop. However, just to kind of remind you that we are doing something. I'm going to show you this video. Um and so this right here this is a little it's like a threeminute video which is kind of talking about the origin story of the ark and what's kind of made us to you know kind of spur us into building the ark. So I will play this for you. Let me open it up real quick here. And uh yes, here we go. Let's see. Let me kind of crop it real quick. Uh okay, so here this it's uh about under three minutes long. So this is the kind of um yeah, this is the story of the ark and while we're building it. So, I'll play this for you and just want to remind you that uh with the ark community if you want to get onto the wait list for it, it's buildthearch.com. Like right around actually right around 15,000 people on the wait list for this. I I can't wait to it to launch. Um so anyway, so the if you want to get on the wait list for it's buildthearch.com. So I'll go I'll show this video to you real quickly now. About 3 minutes long. This is I think you're going to like this. Do you remember the early days of 2020 [music] when something deep down inside of you said, "The world is changing in a very fundamental way." You see, I was living in a high-rise [music] in New York City at that time and my wife Kate and I just found out we were pregnant with our first child. So, we sold up everything. and we left Manhattan and went back to Ohio where I grew up because we both had this sense that the world was not going to be the same anymore and we needed to live in a way that we were prepared for whatever is going to happen. So we bought 5 acres out in the middle of nowhere. We had 50 chickens, huge gardens, [music] stockpiled food, ammo, medicine, everything that we thought we would need. But inside we felt empty. We tried getting others involved, friends, family, neighbors. Told them if look, if you help out, you can reap the bounty with us. But they just didn't get it. And so somehow our lives went from being built around freedom and independence to just isolation. Every day was about supplies and defenses and prepping. And we were so busy and focused. And yet, we had never felt so alone. Because when you're living in fear, even if you're surrounded by everything that you think you need, you're missing the one thing that [music] matters the most, people. And so, we made a change. We left Ohio and moved to upstate New York, where my wife and I had both spent a lot of our adult lives. Now, look, it's a political nightmare here. But, do you know what we found? Community. Neighbors who show up when you need help. friends who plant beside you, pray beside you, and break bread with you. And that's when it hit me. The single most important part of preparedness isn't food. It isn't bullets. It isn't land. It's people. And that's why we're building the Ark community. It's a place to build real relationships, a place to connect with others who see what's happening in this world, who see the darkness rising in this world, just like in the days of Noah, and know that you're not supposed to face it alone. A place to share knowledge, faith, and encouragement. A place to meet people that live near you and build realworld offline relationships [music] because you can have all the gear in the world, but without people, you're still on an island. Ark community is about ending that loneliness. It's about finding your people. So don't keep preparing alone. Join us inside the Ark community. If you recognize that shirt in there, but anyway. So yeah, that that's you know a lot of the origin story behind what led us to building the art community. Uh is that we just we realized that you know like like the like I said in the video, we went back to Ohio. This is kind of early early pandemic. We went crazy with prepping and I kind of have a tendency to do that. I get really focused on something and I I sometimes take it to the extreme. Um, and this is like, okay, hey, this is the pandemic and craziness is happening. There were fuel shortages and, you know, food shortages that were going to be happening from the the war in Ukraine. And so, we just, you know, Kate and I, we just went non-stop, built huge gardens. We had 50some chickens. We had just stockpiling but we couldn't find anyone who wanted to take part in it with us. We we tried talking to our neighbors, tried talking to our friends and say hey you look you know we want to build a safe haven for you. So if things really hit the fan we want to have the gardens and the infrastructure to help you. And people just were kind of like uh okay that's kind of cool and you know I'll come by and pick some of your tomatoes. Um, but we couldn't find people and and we just were really alone. And so, uh, we moved back to, um, upstate New York where we both spent, like I said, a lot of our adult lives. And we have just this beautiful community now. And our our life has gone from being really alone and kind of fearful towards the world to just being just abundant because we have just this huge network of friends. And it was just this lesson for us that you you think about prepping and preparing and you think about gathering supplies and you know learning things and building out a library of printed books that an EMP is not going to take out and getting solar and off-grid. But the most important thing about that is actually building a community of people. And so that's why we're building the arc. I mean literally it's we kind of we're building this arc to help people to build those relationships. So you can use the platform to find people that are close to you. You can find people you know forming local chapters. You can uh you know search based upon expertise. So say you have a question about solar. You can put put a question in the solar group on there and say hey I need help with this. You can tag solar as the topic. And for somebody that has solar as one of their areas of expertise, they'll get a little notification saying, "Hey, someone's asking about solar. Can you go help them with their question?" So, the idea is that we're doing everything that we can to help use the technology that we have to build these relationships that then form these offline relationships. And so, anyway, that's it. Like, that's what we're we're working on. It's coming out very very very soon, I promise. Um, if you want to get on the wait list for that, you just go to uh buildthearchc.com, drop in your name and your email. Uh, we've already got, as I said, close to 15,000 people waiting. We're going to be doing it in kind of tanches. So, we're not going to say open it to everyone all at once. We're going to because it's going to be break the system, but we're going to have different groups kind of getting in. So, we still have some slots in the kind of group number one, and we kind of slowly adding people in there to kind of get it going. with the idea is that uh we're going to build this thriving community and and the platform itself is absolutely amazing. It's, you know, it's kind of like a Facebook that has groups and everything, but it just has so much more. It's got courses. There's a whole Arc Academy on there with training courses on, you know, water filtration, emergency medicine, all this. There's survival guides on there for every disaster you could think of. We have survival guides. We're going to have uh audience, you know, guest Q&A answers. So, maybe we bring experts or doctors in there. to do live question and answers with the people that are on the platform. Uh so anyway, I'm really really excited about that and that's just that's just one of the things that we're trying to do to build resilience. Um but also we own the platform. It's got gosh, we're now up to over over 500,000 lines of code. Like it's a very very complex platform, but we own every single character of code. Uh it's going to be hosted on private servers and we're even setting it up as a private membership association. So that's a whole different kind of topic, but basically it's like constitutionally it's protecting our privacy and there's actually Supreme Court cases that establish precedents that there's been times when so people the state government has tried to come in and demand a member list of a PMA. Um actually the Supreme Court has stepped in and said look this is constitutionally you have the right to assemble you have the right to that privacy and they have blocked the even a state government from getting access to a member list and so we're doing it to set up a truly private and uh just insulated safe place. There's no algorithms aside from like you know just your normal fee but there's no algorithms to try to change the behavior of things. There's no advertising. We're not collecting and selling your data. Um, so anyway, if you want to learn more about that and join the waiting list is buildthearchc.com. Okay, so let's go ahead and hop over to the um just the chat. I've kind of gone through um I think a lot of what I wanted to cover today. So if you have any questions, just let me know. I'm going to open up a different window real quick. Um let me see because I want I didn't do this beforehand. Give me one second to just open up a different window with my my show notes. Give me one quick second here and we can have a little bit of chatting and and get all back and forth fun. Um, okay. So, go back to the chat. So, I've got the YouTube chat. So, here's the Rumble chat and we also have the YouTube chat. So, if you have any questions or comments, uh, you know, I've got my producer Kay who's running the chat. Hello K. And Kay was also, she helped out with that video. She's, you know, brilliant filmmaker as well. But just, you know, let me know and let me see because she's been she's been collecting some of the comments as well during the show. Um, uh, so yes, an earlier question. This is from YouTube from, um, there. So, this is from, uh, let's see, trauma, Dr. Louie Gastro, PhD. Sorry if I mess up your name, saying, uh, some say that the flock cameras are a distraction in a test because they've placed tiny cameras which are hard to decipher. What do you think? I agree with that. Um yeah, I agree. But as I talked about, there's flock I think is also it's not the end all, right? So there's other things. And the thing is is that as we saw with that um the signal, sorry, what's it called again? Uh signal trace. They don't even need cameras to track you. That's the scary thing. Um Leslie Chatau on Rumble who said, "Is it true LA just canceled their flock contract?" So, it was, as far as I understand, it was just the LAPD that canled their flock contract. It doesn't mean the flock cameras are being taken out of LA. It's just that the LAPD cancelled their flock contract. So, um, there you go. Another question from, let's see, this is from Hemp Car and Rumble. How many cameras does Amazon have with their Netradine cams in all their vans every day? That's a good point too, right? Is it the Amazon van cams? Not even talking about the the rings the Ring system um is their vans which have cameras everywhere. So, you know, that's why, you know, for for our property, I've got a I put a big gate up um that's, you know, you could somebody see kind of our house is pretty far back from the road, but there's a big gate and the gate's got these big signs. It says like no trespassing. Uh it also says, you know, you know, property under constant surveillance. I got these big signs on my gate. So, people who kind of drive by think that this guy's kind of a nut, but hey, I'm I'm I'm happy about that. Um, Atlas Be and Rumble said, "Cleveland ended their contract, yet the cameras still ran." Yep, that's happening all the time. Uh, Leap, Doll, and Rumble says, "Seth, do you think the data centers are going to drain our aquifers causing home infrastructure failure as well as making our property unsailable?" I I think so, too. Yes. And um yes, I I think that the absolutely happening. Not only going to see issues with wells drying up, but also when you drain those aquifers, that's you get sink holes and so you're seeing in areas like that where the aquifers are being drained that you have sink holes coming. So yeah, I mean it's it's bad news. Absolutely. Yeah, McBuster, I thought we didn't like the CCP. How come they are implementing Skynet here? Yeah, that's the question. You're right. And I think that Tucker handled that, you know, quite well in saying that, you know, what are we competing with the CCP on the same digital surveillance grid? Is that what the excuse is here? Um, let's kind of take a look back at some of the overall uh um some of the live questions. So, yeah, Maya Maya Cashmer 3000, while you moved from the beautiful 5acres in Ohio. Uh yeah. Yeah. So, we we left Ohio. Now, the the the property you saw me on in the video, cuz we just filmed that last fall, that's our property. So, when you saw me out there with the chickens, and actually, I'll show you. Let me see real quick if I can scrub through that and show you. Um, yeah. So, this right here, this is our current property. Um, that's our So, this is our woodshed that we built. Um, let's see that the this is my actually pause it real quick. Oops. Yep. So, this is um that's our chicken coupe right there. So, that's I'm collecting eggs. It's kind of it's one big building. It's kind of combined with our um our woodshed. That's my tractor in the background there. Yeah. So, that's our current property that you're that you see me talking in front of there. Um yes, you can see it kind of behind me, but yeah. So that's that's currently where we are. And yes, we we left you can see that that's it right there. But anyway, yeah, we left Ohio. Um and we had a a nice place in Ohio. I like where we're at now. We're on seven acres. We're surrounded by woods, backing up to even more woods. Uh and again, we're in New York, but we're in a very rural, very conservative area. So, um you know, I don't love it for that reason. However, we've got an amazing community here. So, um yes. Yeah. menopause who says Vance is a technocrat. Don't trust him at all. Uh yeah, I mean the thing is is that Vance is Teal, right? So Vance is the vice president because of Peter Teal. So if you trust Peter Teal, you can trust George Vance. So but if you don't, then yes. Um so Atlas Be says, "If Seth could live anywhere, where? If I could live anywhere?" Um, I honestly I would live right where I am right now just because of the people that are around us. Like, and that's that's just the reality of it. Um, we have I mean, yeah, that's that's the thing. That's what I've learned is that the most important thing is the people. I would rather live where I'm at right now than have some thousand acre ranch out in the middle of nowhere in Utah, but be all alone. It's that's just the reality of it. So, I I would say I'd want to live here. Um, yeah, that's where I'd want to be. Um, I'll be cover I'll see I'll be covering the wild smoke, the wildfire smoke uh later this week. Just I see a few questions about that. Um, I see people talking about beekeeping. Let's see. Yeah, I think that we're going to be doing beekeeping. Yeah, I see that, you know, D the Almighty, D4, the Almighty says, "Bekeeping is my next mission." And yeah, I think that's what we're going to that's the idea. Yeah, I think that we're going to be doing um uh beekeeping. Maybe next year we'll get into beekeeping. Um yeah, Rumble Mania 50 chickens while I have eight. So, we had 50 chickens back in Ohio when we moved we gave away that flock, but now we're probably up to about 30 chickens or so, but 10 of them are just they're young. We only hatched them a few months ago. So, right now we're probably getting we have about probably 15 or so 15 to 20 regular hens and then the rest are kind of little ones and we have a a rooster um which is great. Uh Lily Creek says, "I could help with your website, Seth. I've been a web developer and software programmer and web host for 30 years." Thank you, Lily. Um actually, we're at the very very end. Maybe actually but Lily maybe um so Lily but maybe once we launch because we we will need to build a team around the ark uh we're going to have to build a team that is just kind of supporting because right now my wife has been so my wife Kate is also her back one of her backgrounds is web developer and software and everything but um Lily if you could send an email to K and it's so Lily if you could email K it's booking man-in-ame.com and also CC Sethman.com. I'd love just to have your contact and just have you because once we get going, we're we're going to need people to help us maintain as we grow uh the ark. And so again, Lily Creek, just uh if you could send an email to bookingmanamea.com and CC Sethman.com and also K if you want to just take note of that. Thank you, Lily. Um I appreciate that. Um, yeah. Mighty Mouse, thank you. Seth, you have a nice place. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you very much. And there you go. D for the almighty. Oh my gosh. Seth, your video has described what I've been through that isolation for being the only one wanting to honor God and prepare. Yeah. Yeah. In Lily Creek. Yeah. There you go. I I've been feeling just like that for 15 years now. And that's the thing. I I' I've felt the exact same way. like I I just I I've just I've just we've lived that. Um but that's the idea is that like I've I've met people even people I didn't know but like we're actually building a community especially through our homeschooling and everything and it's just it's the greatest feeling. Like I I met a guy recently that was former special forces uh in Norway, right? We we went to a shooting range together and it was absolutely amazing. Um, it was it was amazing. And and also at the at the same kind of shooting day, which one of my buddies organized, I met a guy that was a combat medic who did like three tours in Afghanistan. And this guy's like local to me and now he's a friend. And so it's just amazing once you start building your own local community. Uh, it's just it's absolutely incredible. Okay, keep going down. Yes. Oh, thank you. There you go. So, um, Kay dropped in that email right there. So for Lily Creek, um if you want to send us an email. Yep. Thank you, Kay. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Our chickens are free range. Um we let them out. We've got a you know, we let them out, you know, they're out most the day. Uh we've got two dogs, so thankfully we've got two labs that I've trained to not kill the chickens. They killed them a couple of times, but now they don't anymore. But the good thing is that the dogs, they roam the property. They're outside dogs. They're they're work dogs. And you know, all night I'll hear them barking uh because they're barking at deer, they're barking at coyote. So we haven't had any of our chickens killed by predators, which is great. And so we have a um yeah, so we've got a really good kind of setup here. And uh which is Yeah, it's great. Uh yeah, no dolphins yet though. Yeah, hemp car. We don't we don't we don't have any pet dolphins. Maybe maybe eventually we'll get there. I'm not sure. Let's go check over at YouTube and see what's happening at YouTube. Hello YouTube people. Um, oh, thank you. So Paul, um, Mikl says, "Men America, I've become immersed in your content. You're one of the best interviewers around." I appreciate that. Thank you. Honestly, I really I really appreciate that. It's a very, very kind comment. Uh, you also say, "Hands down, one of the most relevant channels on YouTube." Thank you. I I really try to be I mean, look, um, I I don't always cover what's trending. I don't really do things for clicks. I try to cover what I think is important and um that's what guides a lot of the the content that for me is I'm just I'm trying to trying to just talk about the things that are uh important and so yeah thank you. Yes. See, so Paul says, "Also, the more people that start running an app that broadcasts junk data, the more effective." That's a good point. Actually, if you can, it's kind like a signal jammer, right? If you can run an app that is just broadcasting tons of junk to confuse these things, that's a good idea. Um, uh, Logan Lake Community News says, "Thank you, Seth, for all you've shared with us over the years. Deeply appreciate you." Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you um as well for that comment. And that that's you know that's just yeah that's just what I um I try to do. I just I I I I could do a better job of being more kind of personal. I'm actually a very private person as much as I you know I'm sitting on a in front of a camera like like this. Um I'm actually very private and that's also one of the reasons why I'm looking forward to the ark is because I want to share a lot more of my life. Um but I don't want to share it with everybody. Um, I've I've been attacked a lot um from different media companies and different things and I've had hit pieces on me. Um, and so I'm looking forward to having uh just my own little community where I can upload videos of the projects we're doing, our gardens, um, what I'm doing with the kids, homeschooling, like I really want to share that with you. But, you know, I for a little while Telegram was that, but Telegram is like half bots on there. There's like porn bots all over Telegram and and you can't get rid of that and so we're not going to have that on the ark. So yeah. Yeah. And um feminine poet says, "Seth, that is a really important lesson about people." So true. Just realize that because I went from the mountains to more culturally diverse communities and it's quite refreshing. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. That's uh that's that's it's that's so important. And that's the thing. That's just what I'm realizing in life. Like I I I wish that, you know, I would have married Kate earlier and we could have started having kids in our in our 20s. I'd probably have 10 kids, right? You know, but she's in her Kate's in her 40s and maybe we'll have one more um child, but like I I'd love to have like 10 kids. And I would just if I had 10 kids, I would slowly buy up all the land around me and build 10 houses. And I just I I love the idea idea of building a small community. I think it's it's the inverse of what they've tried to push us to do over the last 60 or 70 years is I want to go back to that to just building small local community and just supporting each other. It's it's really really good. Um okay, so Jim Mcrown, good good night. Got to sleep. Good night all. Thank you. Um yeah, in the book documentary. Okay. Just there different things you're talking about there. Talk about South Park. Yeah. Um Tomahawk says, "I've always felt like a man born in a T-Rex body. I've never felt that, but that that's a probably a good feeling to have." Yes, being a man born in a T-Rex body. Okay. Well, I think that we're going to wrap up. We're coming up on, you know, getting close to two hour mark and I've got a busy day ahead of me and it's been a long day today. Um, actually, you know, we went berry picking. It was really wonderful. So, um, we I guess this is the beauty of living in the country. We went on a bike ride this morning. My mom is in town right now with us, which she just loves coming here. She's, you know, kind of drives from Ohio to spend three or four nights with us and spend time with the girls. and we went on a bike ride cuz I have this this uh bike carrier attached to the back of my bicycle and we go on these long like you know hour two-hour long bike rides all across the country. It's beautiful cuz we live in a very pretty area and we're out riding and we notice that there's all these raspberry all on the the road there's raspberry bushes that are that are ripe and so we actually then we picked some we came back later when in my car and we picked this big bag of just beautiful fresh ditch raspberries and blackberries and we came home and uh I I did a rotisserie chicken on the grill tonight and then for dessert we took nice vanilla ice cream and just covered it in these freshly picked organic, you know, this ditch growing uh raspberries and it was just wonderful. It was absolutely wonderful. Um, so yeah. Oh, cool. Rumble Mania, you've got a chicken tractor. Yeah, that's a that's a good thing for you. Yeah, chicken tractors are really good. Started looking at those comments. Um, so yeah. Do you feel my Seth? So thankful you're answering God's call, following him, and leading others in his way. That's it, right? Like we got we got to kind of band together right now. The flood is coming. It's it's already raining. That's that's it's already raining. And Noah didn't wait till his ark till it was raining to build his ark. That's that's an important point there. Um so anyway, I'm going to finish with you for you. I'm going to say goodbye um shortly here, but I've got a little uh video to kind of conclude with. Uh it's a little piano video I want to play for you. But um just a reminder to hit the like button, leave a comment, share the content with someone. I hope that I put together a good presentation of this information so you can share it with friends and family regardless of what their political beliefs are just to educate them on the sec the surveillance infrastructure being built in this country. And also reminder to uh sign up for the ark community. So if you want to join the waiting list, if you're interested in that, want to learn more about it, go to buildthearchc.com. So buildthearch.com and enter in your name and your email on there and we'll add you to that that list. And so um in closing, I told you I had a little special video. So I discovered this, uh this pianist, this young, uh guy from I think from Mexico. I for I forget his uh let's see what is his his name his name is let me pull it up for you um it's Hbron Alaker if I pronounce it correctly anyway it just I found it to be absolutely just beautiful and for whatever reason um he has this this you know song it's it's only two minutes long or three minutes long I I've just been listening to this song over and over and over I feel like it kind of captures where I'm at mentally right now. So, I just want to share that with you. Um, this is a song that really stirs my heart. And so, I'm going to leave you with this. I'll play the song for you and then we'll say our goodbyes. Um, and I'll see you uh next time. So, we'll end on this song. So, again, thank you. I love you all. I'll see you next Sunday. We have some great content coming out. And again, I was going to play a song for you in closing and I hope that you enjoy it because for some reason, I've just fallen in love with this song. I'm playing it. I've listened to probably 30 hours in the past two weeks.