# The secret war on Flock license plate cameras
# NewsNation — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3knK4wgzMs

HIM OF AN ASSASSINATION PLOT.
WELL, A CONTROVERSY IS BREWING
IN SMALL TOWNS AND BIG CITIES
FROM COAST TO COAST OVER A
NATIONWIDE SURVEILLANCE
NETWORK THAT SOME SAY IT'S NOT
ONLY VIOLATING AMERICANS
PRIVACY BUT ALSO THE
CONSTITUTION FLOCK CAMERAS ARE
MARKETED TO POLICE AND LOCAL
OFFICIALS AS A WAY TO TRACACK
CRIMINALS. BUT FOLLOWING
HUNDREDS OF REPORTS OF POLICE
ABUSE AND THE CAMERAS LEADING
TO MISTAKEN IDENTITY. LOCAL
LEADERS FROM COAST TO COAST
ARE PUSHING BACK ON THE CAMERA
NETWORK WITH SOME EVEN CALLING
FOR A COMPLETE BAN. JOINING ME
NOW, I'VE GOT KNOX COUNTY,
TENNESSEE MAYOR AND FORMER WWE
WRESTLER GLENN JACOBS. MAYOR,
GOOD MORNING TO YOU, SIR.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
GOODMORNING MARKET. THANK
YOU FOR HAVING ME ON.
ABSOLUTELY YOU'VE GOT IT. I
KNOW THAT YOU'VE COME OUT AND
SAID THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE
HARDWARE. IT'S NOT ABOUT ONE
OR 2 CAMERAS, BUT ABOUT DATA
RETENTION AND ACCESS POLICY
JUST FOR STARTERS WITH WHAT'S
KEEPING YOU UP AT NIGHT ABOUT
ALL THIS, SIR.
SURE. IF I COULD SET THE
RECORD STRAIGHT JUST REAL
QUICK. I DID NOT PAUSE THE
PROGRAM. I CANNOT AS THE
SHERIFF'S DECISION AND I
APPRECIATE HIS COOPERATION AND
DIALOGUE ON THIS. BUT YOU HAVE
THESE CAMERAS. IS THERE NEW
TECHNOLOGY. THEY'RE NOT WHAT
WE THINK OF LICENSE PLATE
READERS IN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING
FOR CERTAIN CAR. YOU'RE
LOOKING FOR CERTAIN LICENSE
PLATE. CAR PASSES A CAMERA
GETS A HIT. THE POLICE KNOWS
THAT CAR'S AT IN THIS CASE,
THEY'RE JUST COLLECTING DATA
IS AN ACTIVE SURVEILLANCE
SYSTEM AND EVERY CAR THAT
PASSES THROUGH THE DADS CLUB
FROM THAT CAR LICENSE USING
AI. THEY MAKE VEHICLE
FINGERPRINT. THE CAR THAT
INCLUDES DISTINGUISHING
FEATURES MAKE MODEL COLOR
BUMPER STICKERS ROOF RACKS ALL
THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. AND
THEN IT RETAINED FOR SOMETIMES
30 DAYS OR MORE. AND THEN IN A
SEARCHABLE DATABASE, WHICH
REALLY TURNS THE WHOLE CONCEPT
OF A LICENSE PLATE READER ON
ITS HEAD IN THAT WE CAN FOR
ONE SPECIFIC VEHICLE OR
SPECIFIC DEALS. THEY'RE JUST
PULLING EVERYTHING IN AND THE
REALLY REALLY DISTURBING
ASPECT IS WHEN THERE DEPLOYED
IN LARGE NUMBERS, THEY CAN AND
THEY HAVE BEEN USED TO TRACK
INDIVIDUALS MOVEMENTS WITHOUT
A WAR. WE DO NOT HAVE AN
EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY ON
PUBLIC STREETS IN PUBLIC
PLACES. BUT THE GOVERNMENT IS
NOT SUPPOSED TO SURVEILLANCE
AND SPYING ON WITHOUT A
WARRANT. WHAT RESIDENTS
THROUGHOUT YOUR COMMUNITY
TELLING YOU ABOUT THIS. WHAT
WHAT'S THE OVERARCHING SENSE
IS IT CONCERN? IS IT FEAR?
CONFUSION? WHAT'S THE
FEEDBACK?
I THINK IT IS A MIX OF
CONCERN AND COCONFUSION THIS IS
NEW TECHNOLOGY. ONE OF THE
ISSUES THAT I HAVE AS WELL IS
THERE'S NO FEDERAL REGULATORY
FRAMEWORK THAT GOVERNS THESE
DEVICES AND THE LPR OUR
LICENSE PLATE LEGISLATION OF
IN TENNESSEE IS FROM 2014.
OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SEEN
SIGNIFICANT ADVANCEMENTS IN
TECHNOLOGY SINCE 2014. SO
THINK A LOT OF FOLKS THINK
THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY JUST
LICENSE PLATE READERS AND
DON'T REALIZE THE CAPABILITIES
THAT THESE PICKER VICES
DEVICES HAVE. AND THERE'S A
LOT OF CONCERN OF WHY ALL OF A
SUDDEN ARE THESE CAMERAS
POPPING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE,
ESPECIALLY IN RURAL AREAS,
SHORE MAYOR, WHAT'S YOUR
RESPONSE TO POLICE WHO SAY,
HEY, THESE CAMERAS MAKE OUR
JOB.
AND AND SURVEILLING A WHOLE
LOT EASIER. WHAT KIND OF
CONVERSATIONS ARE YOU HAVING
WITH THEM?
WE WERE PLEASED TO HAVE
EVERY TOOL THAT THEY NEED TO
BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS
EFFECTIVELY. BUT THAT HAS
REMAIN WITHIN THE CONFINES OF
THE CONSTITUTION. AND WHEN YOU
LOOK AT RECENT SUPREME COURT
CASES AND 2018. THERE'S
SUPREME COURT CASE CARPENTER
VERSUS UNITED STATES IN WHICH
THE COURT RULED THAT THE
POLICE COULD NOT USE HISTORIC
SO FROM LOCATION DATA WITHOUT
A WARRANT AS WELL AS CASES
INVOLVING GEOFENCING, WHICH
BASICALLY IS WHEN THE POLICE
SAY WE WANT. WE WANT ALL THE
CELL PHONES THAT WERE IN A
PARTICULAR AREA AT A
PARTICULAR TIME. WHAT THEY CAN
DO IS THEY CAN SAY WE HAVE A
WARRANT FOR THIS CELL PHONE.
WAS IT HERE AT THIS PARTICULAR
TIME. BUT THEY CAN'T GET LIKE
BLANKET. YOU LIKE INFORMATION
LIKE THAT. SO THIS CAN BE DONE
AND IT CAN BE DONE WITHIN THE
CONFINES OF THE CONSTITUTION.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO
HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
AND SPEAKING OF DISCUSSION
BEFORE I LET YOU GO. I'M
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SIR,
BUT I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION.
THE COUNTY OFFICIALS, THE
SHERIFF'S OFFICE EVEN FLOCK
REPRESENTATIVES ARE GOING TO
MEET SOMETIME THIS MONTH.
TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING.
IF GUARDRAILS ARE PUT IN PLACE
AND AND REGULATION IS NOT PUT
IN PLACE FROM STATE
LEGISLATURE FROM CONGRESS.
WILL YOU CALL FOR AN OUTRIGHT
BAN ON THESE INSTEAD OF JUST A
PAUSE THAT WILL BE MY DECISION
HAVE BOTH OFFICER. ANOTHER 28
DAYS AT THIS POINT.
THAT WILL BE MY DECISION. I
CAN TELL YOU THAT I WOULD
BECAUSE UNTIL THOSE SAFEGUARDS
ARE IN PLACE UNTIL THERE IS A
WAY OF THE TO USE TECHNOLOGY
LIKE THIS AND ENSURE THE
PROTECTION OF THE 4TH
AMENDMENT AND PROTECTION OF
OUR CITIZENS PRIVACY. I WOULD
CALL FOR BAN, BUT THAT'S NOT
MY DECISION. OK. 28 DAYS. WHAT
COMES NEXT FOR FOR MAYOR
JACOBS.
FOR ME. I'M EXACTLY SURE AT
THIS POINT. THERE'S A LOT OF
THINGS THAT ARE.
THAT ARE STILL LEFT TO BE
SAID. THEY'RE GOING TO SHAKE
OUT OVER THE THE NEXT SEVERAL
MONTHS. SO WE'LL SEE.
WELL WISHING YOU. WELL,
SIR, PLEASE KEEP