# Flock Cameras draw intense debate over personal privacy and public safety # ABC11 — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBWYqmk49Iw Eyewitness News continues now. Right now at five, we're Eyewitness News continues now. Right now at five, we're Eyewitness News continues now. Right now at five, we're diving into the controversy Right now at five, we're diving into the controversy Right now at five, we're diving into the controversy surrounding those flock cameras diving into the controversy surrounding those flock cameras diving into the controversy surrounding those flock cameras being used by police departments surrounding those flock cameras being used by police departments surrounding those flock cameras being used by police departments all across the country, the being used by police departments all across the country, the being used by police departments all across the country, the debate really intensifying right all across the country, the debate really intensifying right all across the country, the debate really intensifying right now in Harnett County. And debate really intensifying right now in Harnett County. And debate really intensifying right now in Harnett County. And privacy is the focus of a lot of now in Harnett County. And privacy is the focus of a lot of now in Harnett County. And privacy is the focus of a lot of these conversations. privacy is the focus of a lot of these conversations. privacy is the focus of a lot of these conversations. A big conversation. Penelope these conversations. A big conversation. Penelope these conversations. A big conversation. Penelope Lopez is in Irwin for us, A big conversation. Penelope Lopez is in Irwin for us, A big conversation. Penelope Lopez is in Irwin for us, getting the pulse from the Lopez is in Irwin for us, getting the pulse from the Lopez is in Irwin for us, getting the pulse from the community and asking the police getting the pulse from the community and asking the police getting the pulse from the community and asking the police chief about the benefits. community and asking the police chief about the benefits. community and asking the police chief about the benefits. One of these four cameras you chief about the benefits. One of these four cameras you chief about the benefits. One of these four cameras you see right here help solve a One of these four cameras you see right here help solve a One of these four cameras you see right here help solve a crime. Last year, law see right here help solve a crime. Last year, law see right here help solve a crime. Last year, law enforcement are calling it the crime. Last year, law enforcement are calling it the crime. Last year, law enforcement are calling it the future of policing, but not enforcement are calling it the future of policing, but not enforcement are calling it the future of policing, but not everyone in the community future of policing, but not everyone in the community future of policing, but not everyone in the community agrees. everyone in the community agrees. everyone in the community agrees. When it was brought up on our agrees. When it was brought up on our agrees. When it was brought up on our Facebook group, it just blew up. When it was brought up on our Facebook group, it just blew up. When it was brought up on our Facebook group, it just blew up. What? You know, we don't want Facebook group, it just blew up. What? You know, we don't want Facebook group, it just blew up. What? You know, we don't want those and get them out of here. What? You know, we don't want those and get them out of here. What? You know, we don't want those and get them out of here. If you're driving through those and get them out of here. If you're driving through those and get them out of here. If you're driving through Irwin, you might not even see If you're driving through Irwin, you might not even see If you're driving through Irwin, you might not even see the cameras. Irwin, you might not even see the cameras. Irwin, you might not even see the cameras. I don't like it. the cameras. I don't like it. the cameras. I don't like it. 11 floor cameras are set up I don't like it. 11 floor cameras are set up I don't like it. 11 floor cameras are set up near busy intersections and main 11 floor cameras are set up near busy intersections and main 11 floor cameras are set up near busy intersections and main entrances. The cameras capture near busy intersections and main entrances. The cameras capture near busy intersections and main entrances. The cameras capture vehicle color, make and model, entrances. The cameras capture vehicle color, make and model, entrances. The cameras capture vehicle color, make and model, pinpointing stolen cars, tags, vehicle color, make and model, pinpointing stolen cars, tags, vehicle color, make and model, pinpointing stolen cars, tags, and even missing or wanted pinpointing stolen cars, tags, and even missing or wanted pinpointing stolen cars, tags, and even missing or wanted people. Mary Jenkins, who has and even missing or wanted people. Mary Jenkins, who has and even missing or wanted people. Mary Jenkins, who has lived in this neighborhood for people. Mary Jenkins, who has lived in this neighborhood for people. Mary Jenkins, who has lived in this neighborhood for 21 years, doesn't support the lived in this neighborhood for 21 years, doesn't support the lived in this neighborhood for 21 years, doesn't support the tool so close to home. 21 years, doesn't support the tool so close to home. 21 years, doesn't support the tool so close to home. I can see having them maybe a tool so close to home. I can see having them maybe a tool so close to home. I can see having them maybe a in a few places, maybe, maybe I can see having them maybe a in a few places, maybe, maybe I can see having them maybe a in a few places, maybe, maybe strategic places. But way out in a few places, maybe, maybe strategic places. But way out in a few places, maybe, maybe strategic places. But way out here in the country, on country, strategic places. But way out here in the country, on country, strategic places. But way out here in the country, on country, back roads and things, that was here in the country, on country, back roads and things, that was here in the country, on country, back roads and things, that was really see a need. back roads and things, that was really see a need. back roads and things, that was really see a need. For the clash between public really see a need. For the clash between public really see a need. For the clash between public safety and privacy has become For the clash between public safety and privacy has become For the clash between public safety and privacy has become the defining issue. safety and privacy has become the defining issue. safety and privacy has become the defining issue. Then I have one like right the defining issue. Then I have one like right the defining issue. Then I have one like right directly. Then I have one like right directly. Then I have one like right directly. Close to my kids daycare. directly. Close to my kids daycare. directly. Close to my kids daycare. Like as soon as I pull in. Close to my kids daycare. Like as soon as I pull in. Close to my kids daycare. Like as soon as I pull in. Yeah, I know the concerns, Like as soon as I pull in. Yeah, I know the concerns, Like as soon as I pull in. Yeah, I know the concerns, you know, and we we've got some Yeah, I know the concerns, you know, and we we've got some Yeah, I know the concerns, you know, and we we've got some pretty strict policies in place. you know, and we we've got some pretty strict policies in place. you know, and we we've got some pretty strict policies in place. With only 11 officers on the pretty strict policies in place. With only 11 officers on the pretty strict policies in place. With only 11 officers on the force. Irwin Police Chief With only 11 officers on the force. Irwin Police Chief With only 11 officers on the force. Irwin Police Chief Jonathan Johnson says this tool force. Irwin Police Chief Jonathan Johnson says this tool force. Irwin Police Chief Jonathan Johnson says this tool is necessary. Jonathan Johnson says this tool is necessary. Jonathan Johnson says this tool is necessary. We try to do a weekly audit is necessary. We try to do a weekly audit is necessary. We try to do a weekly audit on it just to make sure. Flock We try to do a weekly audit on it just to make sure. Flock We try to do a weekly audit on it just to make sure. Flock also has recently implemented a on it just to make sure. Flock also has recently implemented a on it just to make sure. Flock also has recently implemented a kind of an audit tracking system also has recently implemented a kind of an audit tracking system also has recently implemented a kind of an audit tracking system within their system. So that kind of an audit tracking system within their system. So that kind of an audit tracking system within their system. So that way, if something suspicious or within their system. So that way, if something suspicious or within their system. So that way, if something suspicious or tags ran several times pops up way, if something suspicious or tags ran several times pops up way, if something suspicious or tags ran several times pops up in their system, they'll notify tags ran several times pops up in their system, they'll notify tags ran several times pops up in their system, they'll notify us. in their system, they'll notify us. in their system, they'll notify us. Tells Eyewitness News the us. Tells Eyewitness News the us. Tells Eyewitness News the cameras capture still images Tells Eyewitness News the cameras capture still images Tells Eyewitness News the cameras capture still images only and do not record video or cameras capture still images only and do not record video or cameras capture still images only and do not record video or use facial recognition. In a only and do not record video or use facial recognition. In a only and do not record video or use facial recognition. In a statement, they say in part use facial recognition. In a statement, they say in part use facial recognition. In a statement, they say in part flock does not sell data. We statement, they say in part flock does not sell data. We statement, they say in part flock does not sell data. We believe public safety and flock does not sell data. We believe public safety and flock does not sell data. We believe public safety and privacy can coexist. believe public safety and privacy can coexist. believe public safety and privacy can coexist. It's a great tool for them. privacy can coexist. It's a great tool for them. privacy can coexist. It's a great tool for them. But you know, like I said, most It's a great tool for them. But you know, like I said, most It's a great tool for them. But you know, like I said, most people, you know, they think But you know, like I said, most people, you know, they think But you know, like I said, most people, you know, they think it's an invasion of privacy people, you know, they think it's an invasion of privacy people, you know, they think it's an invasion of privacy because they're watching us it's an invasion of privacy because they're watching us it's an invasion of privacy because they're watching us everywhere we go. because they're watching us everywhere we go. because they're watching us everywhere we go. And the next flock meeting is everywhere we go. And the next flock meeting is everywhere we go. And the next flock meeting is scheduled for this upcoming. And the next flock meeting is scheduled for this upcoming. And the next flock meeting is scheduled for this upcoming. Monday, August 17th at