Redline · February 5, 2024
Las Cruces Council Meeting - Feb 5, 2024
The city’s minutes for this meeting were compared, sentence by sentence, against the transcript of the recording. Of 56 statements the minutes attribute to a named person, 55 were found in the recording.
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Flores: a negation on the recording is missing from the minutes (“don't”)
Says something differentBoth records carry the same sentence, but they disagree on a number or on whether it was negative. The same sentence appears in both records, but the recording contains “don't” where the minutes have nothing — which reverses its sense. Around: “the stress of having paid a number of 10,000 20,000 to prevent flooding”.
What the minutes say
Councilor Flores said my concern is I think there is a development just south of that and that is where there has been some flooding due to the arroyo. I don’t know the years it was before I sat on city council but became aware of it going to community meetings when Ceil Levantino was our councilor in that district and there was an outcry by residents who lived there who had experienced flooding and everybody seems to think that these floods they only happen once in a blue moon but if that blue moon happens to be me, I am going to care about it. It’s going to affect a woman, an elderly couple who I think was Mr. and Mrs. White. I think Mr. White passed away from a heart condition that was attributed to the stress of having paid a number of $10,000/$20,000 to prevent flooding to happen and I think it happened a couple of times. My concern always is for the wellbeing of people and safety. Have there been any studies and of the proximity and development of homes that would be built there to the arroyo and I know that no one can predict when that arroyo would run but I know that right now it’s just like a huge dry gulch. So, has the city taken all necessary steps to ensure that in the
What the recording says
a Royo I don't know the years it was before I um sat on city council but became aware of it and going to community meetings when seal livatino was our coun in that district and uh there was an outcry by residents who Liv there who had experience that flooding and um and everybody seems to think that oh these floods they only happen once in a blue moon but if that blue moon happens to be me I'm going to care about it if it's going to affect a woman uh a couple an elderly couple who um I think it was Mr and Mrs White I think Mr White passed away from a heart condition that he attributed was attributed to the stress of having that flood and having paid um a number I don't know 10,000 $20,000 uh
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housing first can harm our overall Community many people from the neighborhood near desert hope have had their homes broken into have had their cars stolen there are drug needles left around families are scared to let their children play outside or walk to school women are reported being sexually harassed in their front yards
“whistleblower” is said 1× on the recording and never appears in the minutes
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What the recording says
that has to do with electric vehicle parking so every time we have a new technology or approach it has lots of extra bells and whistles to it in this is this one so right now we have 40 public Chargers around the city there's um eight of them uh in seven different locations that
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What the recording says
if you do Park illegally and um you mean a fine find find yes thank you you'll be fed if you park incorrectly if you ice The Parking Spot yeah so that's good that you want to get and then we'll we'll send a press release out for that I don't yes I don't know
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What the minutes say
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What the recording says
our with our troop and uh with our troops with our troop uh and the members there so thank you Mr Mayor thank you councelor fraud is Mayor protm thank you also did on universal healthcare so what does that mean there's con consensus do that mean oh yeah done um I do I actually
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What the recording says
Music] you're on good afternoon uh welcome to city council today is February 5th 2024 and um thank you for joining us for our city council meeting it's approximately [Music] one 101 101 if uh y all please join me uh first of all for a moment uh like to take a moment for our our men and women that serve our military and for also all those that men and women that serve our community to give a moment now if you join me for the pledge to the
“Lorena Granados She's” introduces themselves on the recording and is not named in the minutes
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What the recording says
three minutes I'm going to do my best in saying what she's saying no thanks good afternoon my name is Lorena granados she's going to talk about her uh diagnosis of cancer and her um situation at an fqc uh Ben Archer and both of them she means Ben Archer because Clin theia is the actual name of the other
“Donald Wilson Um” introduces themselves on the recording and is not named in the minutes
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new counselor McClure even though your sign says William matis I know you're not William matis um my name is Donald Wilson um since the last time I came before the Council I have now become the president of El cruus but I want to assure you George Pearson is still around he's just freed up from some of the
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What the recording says
to ensure future um access and coordinated development of a vagrant parcel on the northeast side of town um the city contracted with it's been a Monday to say the least um EXC me the city contracted with the site Southwest to assist us with the preparation of the plan um next slide just want to give you a couple of reasons that we started the blueprint plan development in particular wanted to call out that it provides policy guidance for development uh not only to the city council but
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What the minutes say
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What the recording says
for the city of Las Cruses and today I have a quick presentation that has to do with electric vehicle parking so every time we have a new technology or approach it has lots of extra bells and whistles to it in this is this one so right now we have 40 public Chargers around the city there's um eight of them uh in seven different locations that belong to the city and the rest are um in other parts of the City by other uh public or private entities
Lisa LaRocque: partial match in the recording
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What the minutes say
Lisa LaRocque said one thing I was going to do was to get signage that identifies that this will be a fee if you do park illegally. You will be fined if you park incorrectly, and we will send a press release out for that. I don’t know if there should be a time lag for this. It is a pretty common-sense practice.
What the recording says
to when it goes into effect mayor and Council of Florida is one thing that I was going to do was to put out a press to get signage that that identifies that this will be a um a fee if you do get uh if you do Park illegally and um you mean a fine find find yes thank you you'll be fed if you park incorrectly if you ice The Parking Spot yeah so that's good that you