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Hey, everybody, how's it going? Hope
you're having a lovely day. Welcome to
today's episode of How You Getting
[ __ ] I'm your host, Louis Rossmann,
and today I want to talk about something
else that happened in the great state of
Colorado regarding Flock Safety Cameras.
This is a case where a gentleman keeps
getting pulled over for having a warrant
on him, and there's just one problem
here with this case is that this
gentleman does not actually have any
warrants out on him. In spite of that,
he continues to get stopped over and
over again. So, this article says Flock
cameras keep telling police a Colorado
man who doesn't have a warrant has a
warrant, and when you drill down into
the why of the issue on this site, it
goes into O versus zero. So, I remember
having this problem a long time ago. Any
of you ever have a website where it
doesn't allow you to paste the password,
you can only type the password. So, I
would have to manually view it in my
password manager, and a problem that I
had for a long time is that a capital O
and the number zero look fairly similar,
and if you're not used to dealing with
these on a regular basis, you can get
them wrong. And you probably see where
I'm going with this video. This unlucky
man, again, the way that this works as I
quote, "In Colorado data entry, we use
both zeros and Os in license plates,"
Leon said. "Sometimes the data entry
will be for both. The warrant return
hits when Dausman's plate was searched
either way. They entered it for both. It
wasn't a mistake, one or the other. They
just entered it for both an O and a zero
because they've run it both ways and the
warrant pops up in this way." Now, this
is something that may not be as much of
a problem if you have standard police
officers that are viewing it because you
don't have a police officer with a
decent rate of being able to detect
every single license plate that goes by
on every street corner. But, if you have
a Flock camera on every single street
corner and every time the guy is driving
by, it just detects it. Every single
time this guy drives by the camera,
what's happening is he hears sirens and
then the police go after him to stop his
his car. And this is one of the
arguments that I was making when I made
this particular page, common questions,
arguments, and responses when discussing
Flock surveillance, the reasonable
standard in Fourth Amendment law. And
when you talk about protecting against
unreasonable searches and seizures,
people will always say, "Well, you don't
have any expectation of privacy when
entering the public sphere." But, this
whole concept over here, think about it.
It was standard for some police
departments to use the O and the number
zero when they were entering license
plates just so that a police officer
wouldn't potentially miss the suspect.
And the reason this wasn't an issue in
the past is because you didn't have a
police officer on every single street
corner that was able to detect every
single car that went by. But now when
you take that old practice and you
combine it with the ability to see every
single car that goes by, you run into
this issue over here. Now the [ __ ] up
part is that they actually fixed it
within their own system, but apparently
now he has to get it fixed with every
other system because a bunch of law
enforcement people that use Flock
cameras will use this hot list. So even
if he leaves this particular county, if
the hot list is being utilized by other
police departments that also use Flock,
he's going to have the exact same
problem, which means that what do you
do? Do you do you just How do It's one
thing to get off of the hot list for
that particular police department. Now
he also has to figure out how to get off
of this Flock hot list for every other
police department that is using this
garbage system. "Once you're in the
Flock system, it's on you to get out,"
Dausman said. "You have to bear any
responsi- bility for making that
happen." And what really bothers me is
when I start reading the YouTube
comments here, there was one comment and
I can't find it anymore where it was
saying there's a really easy way to get
around this. All you have to do is All
you have to do is just get another
plate, problem solved. I'm trying to
find the comment now and I can't find
that. I wonder if he deleted it or if it
got hidden on YouTube. A lot of comments
on my own videos get removed all the
time even without me removing them. But
there was a comment that I remember
reading and it was something along the
lines of this is pretty easy, just get
new registration. And I really I take
offense to that comment. Why is it on me
to change the [ __ ] registration for
my car and get a new license plate? Why
is it on me to visit my county's office
or the DMV's office and waste five to
six hours of my life [ __ ] with this
entire process because you can't tell
the difference between a zero and an O
because you have decided to replace
policing with ChatGPT on a telephone
pole and do that with my tax dollars. I
really I think this part of the story
that bothered me the most is the fact
that there were at least 5% of the
commenters that were saying that you
it's an easy problem to solve, just get
new plates.
Why the [ __ ] should I have to get new
plates? You're the one that put in this
[ __ ] system. This is a comedy of
errors. The Gilpin County Sheriff's
Office told 9 News that it has no
connection with the warrant and it
actually involves a Colorado State
Patrol warrant. The Sheriff's Office
said it reached out to Colorado State
Patrol to have it fixed, but State
Patrol looked into it Thursday evening
and reached a different conclusion. A
spokesperson for CSP said a man was
pulled over for a crime, but the man
didn't show up to his court date in
Gilpin County. When the man didn't show
up to court, Gilpin County then issued a
warrant for his failure to appear and at
some point the Sheriff's Office provided
the incorrect plate information to the
Colorado Crime Information Center, which
supplied the information used on the
Flock hot list. The repeated stops have
taken a toll. Dasman said he cannot
comfortably use his truck and worries
about what could happen if he is stopped
while family members are in the vehicle.
Without knowing what the warrant is for,
he fears how a police department may
approach him next time he's pulled over.
So, when he actually speaks to the
police, he's saying that you've said
that this warrant is not on me. Can you
at least tell me what the warrant that
you continuously stop me for is even
for? And they will not tell him what the
warrant is for. Maybe the warrant is
because he paid some speeding ticket
bill late or maybe it's because they
think that he's a murderer. If he is
being chased by the police and the
police see on their screen popping up,
this man is a murderer or a gangster
that's done all this type of stuff, they
might be more aggressive and he doesn't
even know what it is that he is being
falsely accused of after they openly
admitted that they're not even going
after him. This is the stupidest [ __ ] I
ever seen in my life. I highly suggest
that you all check out this article and
more importantly this wiki article that
we have where we go over all of this
crap that you hear that defends this
stuff on a regular basis talking about
how you don't have expectation of
privacy in a public space or anything
else. We're going over the difference
between momentary observation and
comprehensive surveillance to try and
get people to understand that there is a
difference between me being able to see
you outside and having a comprehensive
dragnet where you can follow somebody's
precise movements everywhere they go
with very high precision.
Rip this stuff out, man. This just this
Every day there's a new story like this
and we're going to make sure to log all
of them in consumer rights dot wiki. And
if you want to make this article better,
it would be great if you could. That's
it for today, and as always, I hope you
learned something.