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Thank you guys for coming and we're
going to talk about surveillance in
Santa Cruz County and what ALPRs are and
what they look like. All right. So, what
are ALPRs?
So, automatic license plate readers are
AI powered cameras that capture and
analyze images of all passing vehicles,
storing details like your car's
location, date, and time. They also
capture your car's make, model, color,
and identifying features such as dents,
roof racks, bumper stickers, often
turning these into searchable data
points. These cameras collect data on
millions of vehicles, regardless of
whether the driver is suspected of a
crime. This wireless surveillance
apparatus daisy chains thousands of
cameras together to create, analyze, and
predict the traffic and motion patterns
of every single person who drives,
walks, and bikes past these cameras.
So, what do these cameras look like? You
guys may have may be familiar with this
camera. This is the most common camera
that Flock sells. It's called the Falcon
model. And one feature of a lot of these
cameras is that they always almost
always come with a solar panel. One of
the few cameras that doesn't always come
with a solar panel is actually the condo
model, which we'll get to later, but
this familiarize yourself with this
specific camera because this is the one
you're going to be seeing everywhere.
All right. And then there's lesser known
variants of the Falcon model which are
known as the Falcon long range and the
Falcon short range. So the Falcon long
range captures high-speed vehicles
across multiple lanes and long distances
such as highways and it's pictured on
the left on the left hand side. The
short range excels in close quarters,
capturing details in parking lots,
campuses, and neighborhood entries,
which is pictured on the right hand
side. And I have not yet seen these in
the wild, except in San Francisco. So,
we don't actually have any of these here
in Watsonville.
These ones we do. So, this one is the
sparrow. So, the sparrow, and you'll
notice a theme. They're all named after
birds. That's why they're called flock.
Every single camera is a bird and
they're a flock of birds. So, the
Sparrow is a cheaper, lighter, and
smaller version of the generic Falcon
model. Typically used when law
enforcement is testing out new locations
for cameras. And it has the exact same
functionality as the generic Falcon
model.
And also familiarize yourself with this
one because there's a lot of these in
Watsonville and there's actually a few
of them in the Target parking lot right
across the street.
This one is the most dangerous of all of
the cameras in the flock surveillance
family.
This one is called the Condor and it is
specifically designed to surveil people.
They're they're dubbed PTZ or pan tilt
zoom. These cameras make full use of the
AI neural networks allowing the camera
to follow you or any motion that passes
by.
And actually Oakland has around like 60
of these that they just got and San
Francisco has about like 30. So the
these we don't actually have any here in
Watsonville yet. That's the key word
yet.
This one is actually one that we also
don't have in Watsonville, but it's very
important that people familiarize with
themselves with it. This one's not a
camera. This one is actually um is not
as common as the other flock models, but
it is equipped and designed with the
ability to record audio.
This one's called the Raven, and it's
almost always used together with a
Sparrow or a Falcon camera. And Flock
calls it their gunshot detection or
human distress detection device. And a
lot of this a lot of the data that is
collected from these Raven models is
actually sent overseas to the
Philippines where they have overseas gig
workers from the Philippines train the
AI models by listening to the data and
then um coming to conclusion and
analysis.
So, why are these cameras so dangerous?
I want to bring to you guys attention an
excerpt. It's a lot of words, but it's
an excerpt from Flock's patent. So,
Flock's patent that they submitted to
the US Patent Office.
So, they can't lie in it. That's the
that's the important thing. They can't
lie in this document. Their document
clearly states that there are different
neural networks for categorizing people
for categorizing classes of people based
on race and gender, height and weight,
clothing, bicycles, and animals. So
don't believe the city. Don't believe
any jurisdiction when they tell you that
these cameras are just for cars. They
are not just for cars. and Flock's own
documents prove that they are not just
for cars.
So what are the ways the pathways for
ICE to access local flock data?
So the first way is through what we call
front door access, which is direct
sharing and onetoone access. basically
giving the cities that have the the
cities that have flock on their it's
basically what the cities have on their
flock transparency form. It's when they
share directly as if they're sharing
with their friend. Not a lot of no
agency in California
shares directly with ICE supposedly.
That's that's the thing. Supposedly they
do not share directly with ICE because
that is a violation of state law. So
they supposedly according to what they
say they do not share directly. However,
we do share indirectly and I will get to
those in a bit. So the second way that
ICE can access this data is through side
door access.
An example of a side door search would
be when someone at ICE
calls one of their friends in local law
enforcement
and has that officer run the search on
the system on their behalf. So
basically, imagine I'm an ICE agent. I'm
going to call my friend in Watsonville
PD and I'm going to be like, "Yo, I
don't want to run the search on your
guys' system. You do it for me." And
that's what that's what a side door
search is. There's also what we call
backdoor access, which occurs when
outside agencies such as Border Patrol
or ICE access this data without explicit
explicit authorization. So that's
actually what we've seen a lot of where
jurisdictions in California say we have
not shared with ICE. It's against the
law to share with ICE and yet we've seen
time and time again that agents have
access to this system.
Yes.
Can you explain what you mean by there's
no direct access but there is
like you shown me request for
information which says immigration as as
the purpose that is given after that
request is made.
Yeah. So, uh the reason we've been able
to find a lot of searches that say
immigration enforcement on the audit
logs is actually because of side door
access. So, I will actually get to that
in a bit as to why we've seen the side
door searches show up in audit logs, but
we haven't seen ICE themselves in audit
logs. I will get to that shortly. Uh
before I get before I get to that, I
actually want to talk about hacked
cameras. So we've been actually people
that I'm organizing with in the national
space. One of them is called Ben Jordan
and he was actually able to figure out
that these cameras were very easily
hackable.
So they were able to hack into the
cameras with in less than 30 seconds.
It it only took them 30 seconds and they
pressed the button on the back in a
particular manner that I will not say
here because it is illegal.
But they were able to access the system
within uh 30 seconds because of the fact
that the cameras run on a really old
software or not really old I guess in
the terms of data it's old but it runs
on a system called Android Oreo OS which
has not received any updates since 2021
and it has over 52 published
vulnerabilities that anyone is able to
just copy and paste on the internet and
then use to hack these cameras. Some of
these hacked cameras have also are also
live streaming to the internet. One of
these hacked cameras is actually live
streaming a children's playground in the
Bay Area. And for the safety of the
people living in that park, I'm not
going to say where the park is. Just
know it's in the Bay Area. All right,
next slide. So another way that ICE and
federal agencies can access this data is
through what we call a fusion center. So
a fusion center is there's 81 fusion
centers all over the country and I guess
now 82 because I talked with an elected
official and they said that there's six
in California now instead of five. So
now there's 82 fusion centers all across
the country. But basically the mission
for the fusion centers is to serve as
the central point for the collection,
coordination, analysis, and
dissemination of intelligence to first
responders, law enforcement, and the
private sector.
all of the data that is collected by not
just Flock, all of the other ALPR
vendors,
as well as drone footage, body camera
footage, CCTV footage, all of this foot
and even door door doorbell cameras if
they're sharing like if they opted into
sharing with local law enforcement,
their data is all going into the fusion
centers and that data is accessible by
federal agencies because these federal
agencies agencies have office space in
they have office space in the fusion
centers. So even if they don't do the
search themselves, all they have to do
is walk over to their friend's laptop
and run and do a search on their
friend's computer.
So how many fusion centers are there in
California? I went over this already,
but we have we no longer have five. Now
there are six fusion centers in
California. And the other ones that are
listed at the bottom are regional are
just intelligence centers for the
cities. They're real time crime centers.
But for our jurisdiction, our fusion
center is known as the Northern
California Regional Intelligence Center.
And as I said before, it aggregates all
surveillance data from all over the Bay
Area all the way up to Sacramento.
So now I want to get to the question
that was asked earlier which is why have
we only seen side door searches of
someone else typing in immigration
enforcement into the search quer query
but they have not been a we have not
been able to see ICE themselves as an
organization in the audit logs. Well,
the reason is because of the 2021 DHS
policy which governs AOPRs.
So, basically,
hold on, I'm just going to give a little
time for the interpreter.
Okay, so basically, this is a lot of
words up here. I'm not going to repeat
it all, but what it summarizes to is
that ICE can dip in and out of systems
without showing up in any audit logs.
And that's why we have not been able to
see ICE inside audit logs, but we have
been able to see cipher searches of
someone doing a search on behalf of ICE.
So, for example, I'm currently working
with the Oakland auditor and they were
asking me why is it that in our audits
we have not been able to find ICE agents
themselves or border patrol agents
themselves in our audit log. Well, the
reason why is because DHS requires every
single vendor that sells AOPRs, not just
block, all AOPR vendors to not leave a
trail of ICE in any system except an
audit logs made available only to ICE.
So that means that if we wanted to
figure out what systems ICE is using, we
are going to have to do a records
request directly to ICE. And as an
undocumented organizer, I am not going
to do that. And also they take two years
to respond to record requests.
So we're not that first of all I'm not
going to do it because I'm scared and
that's I'm not going to do that. And
then second of all even if I did want to
do it it would take them 2 years to
respond to me. So it's not even worth
the time.
All right. So I'm actually going to show
a quick video. It's about 2 minutes long
and it's going to go it's a Financial
Times uh video which goes over how we
know that ICE and Border Patrol like how
they've used this tech before and how
they're able to bring the data together.
This video shows the moment a Colombian
woman was arrested at a daycare center
in Chicago on the 5th of November
following what ICE called a targeted
traffic stop. In a statement defending
the arrest, the Department of Homeland
Security said the woman's car was
registered to a female illegal alien.
But that made me wonder how would they
know that? They had to link vehicle
registration data, which is held by the
states, with citizenship data, which is
held by the federal government.
Documents show that ICE can use vast
networks of license plate readers to
locate and identify vehicles across the
country, making this process possible at
scale. And this is just the tip of the
iceberg. The US is acquiring vast
amounts of data to power it deportation
efforts. An FT analysis of federal
procurement data shows that the agency
has spent an estimated 353 million on
surveillance contracts this year, up 27%
from 2024.
Unbelievable.
ICE agents now have the tools to let
them do geoloccation, DNA testing, eye
scanning, and facial recognition. A
number of videos have surfaced where
bystanders have filmed agents using
smartphones to do this in the field. But
many of the tools are less visible. ICE
has purchased access to multiple data
brokers, allowing them access to data
from social media sites, utility bills,
credit reports, and more. They have
reached across the government to access
records from the Social Security
Administration and the IRS, all in
pursuit of updated addresses to locate
potential deportation targets. Silicon
Valley giant Palunteer has stepped up to
build immigration OS, a system to help
ICE cross reference all of these data
sets. DHS has traditionally used its
surveillance capabilities to fight
terrorism and crime. One large division
of ICE, Homeland Security
Investigations, used to focus on drug
smuggling and human trafficking. Former
officials told me that members of these
teams have been redirected to Trump's
immigration push, raising concerns that
those other crimes might be going
unressed.
Yeah. So, basically their video just
goes over the fact that through the
fusion center, well, they didn't mention
it, but the way that ICE is able to act
to connect these dots is through the
fusion centers and through their access
of our systems without us even knowing.
All right.
All right. Before I go to the next
thing, I actually want to talk about a
specific story of a elementary school
teacher from Chicago. So Chicago in
Illinois, they have the exact a lot of
the same exact laws that we do, a lot of
the same contract language that we do.
And their contract language and their
laws state that they will not share
information with Border Patrol, that
they will not share information with
ICE. However, we know of the story of a
elementary school teacher named Marimar
Martinez. She was followed by
immigration enforcement agents for over
a week using the flock system. And then
when when they cornered her, they shot
her five times. And then
after they shot her five times, they
labeled her a domestic terrorist and
brought charges to her in court.
Now, we were able to find out that she
was being followed through the flock
cameras because of the discovery process
in court.
And also in the discovery process in
court, we were able to see text messages
that the agents texted each other. And
these agents texted each other saying,
"I shot her five times and she had seven
holes. Put that in your book, boys."
They bragged about it. They bragged
about shooting a legal observer. And for
those of you that are legal observers
here, as I know many of you probably
either help out with Y or are with Y
right now, thank you for thank you for
being here. Uh but they they bragged
about shooting a legal observer. And so
not only is this a threat to
undocumented people like myself, but
it's also a threat to US citizens who
want to do the right thing.
Now, I actually want to get to how we
were able to find a lot of this data and
the importance of public records
requests.
So,
if you ever want to file a public
records request, you can submit one in
person or digitally through the city's
public records act online portal. That
is actually how we were able to get
proof that the cities of Watsonville,
Santa Cruz, and Capola all violated
state law, specifically SP34 and SP54
when we saw evidence of agencies outside
of California accessing the system. In
Santa Cruz, we were actually able to see
that they violated California law 4 and
a half million times.
That's not an insignificant amount of of
of times of violating state law.
So when you get a records request, the
first thing that we look for, the first
things that we look for every time is
violation of SB34, which is a policy
that a state law that governs the use of
license plate readers, and SB54, which
is the California Fair Values Act, which
states that we will not share data with
outside agencies and federal immigration
enforcement. And the third thing that we
look for is actually the worldwide
rights clause which I mentioned earlier.
So a lot of contracts that I've looked
at from Sacramento down to Monterey,
even down to San Louis Abyispo, they all
have a lot of the exact same language
and I always wondered why. But then the
city manager for Santa Cruz told us that
they just copy and pasted the contract
that Flock gave them. So a lot of these
places are not even doing their due
diligence and looking at the contract
that they're being sent. They're just
copy pasting exactly what Flock gives
them and basically just being Flock's
employees at that point.
So here is the specific wording for the
worldwide rights clause. It basically
states customer hereby grants flock a
limited non-exclusive royalty-free
irrevocable worldwide license to use the
customer data and perform all acts as
may be necessary for flock to provide
the flock services to the customer.
Now why is this included? As I mentioned
earlier, Flock includes this clause
because it sends data to the Philippines
so that offshore gate workers can review
and classify footage. This clause
contractually allows the data to go
overseas so long as it's deemed
necessary for FOP to provide FLOP
services to the customer. The workers
were tasked with reviewing footage in
order to help train AI algorithms.
Tasks these gig workers were assigned
included categorizing vehicles, makes,
colors, types, and transcribing license
plates, and audio tasks. And the reason
why they were assigned with transcribing
license plates is because the system
struggles with O's, D's, zeros, Z's, and
twos. A lot of the times it'll mix those
up, which goes into the efficacy of
flock. If it messes up those five uh
numerical figures,
how many times do they misread it? Uh
plates,
but it's not hopeless.
I want to make it very clear that we
have beaten the flock already.
After our victory in Santa Cruz, we
received requests for help, assistance,
pointers, and research from organizers
all over the state.
And the we took the lessons that were
that we learned and got wins in Los
Altos Hills two days later. And the Los
Altos campaign was headed up by two
people, just two people and and myself
with research. So I guess three. But no,
they were the locals. So I'm going to
count them more because I just gave them
some research. But we got wounds in Los
Santos Hills. We got wind in Mountain
View. And the win in Mountain View is
actually pretty important because they
took down flock and did not instruct
city staff to look for another vendor.
We also got victory in the county of
Santa Clara
and they directly told the sheriff's
department that they are no longer
allowed to use flock. Period. So that
means that all of the all the cities
that are unincorporated that were using
flock through the sheriff's department
had to either start doing it themselves
and paying for it themselves and
operating the system themselves or stop
using it entirely.
And they also listen to our our list of
demands when it comes to guardrails when
it comes to looking for the next vendor.
And between you and me, none of the
vendors are going to meet the
guardrails. So, they're going to be
looking for that magical vendor for a
long time.
We also got a victory at the Foothill
Dansza Community College District. And
that campaign was actually headed up by
one person.
Wow.
One person and and myself because I help
with research. But I'm counting the
locals here. I want to make sure the
locals get their space.
And so to say that it is very much
doable here. We have more than enough
people to get the job done here. We have
more than enough people to do our inside
and outside strategy so we can get the
cameras taken down. But I do also want
to be clear about one thing.
A lot of these cities where we won,
they're predominantly white. They are
predominantly wealthy.
Why is it that we've been able to get
victories in the jurisdictions that are
mostly white or mostly wealthy?
It's because the rich and white people
don't want to be surveiled. They know
the power of surveillance. And when
white people when white and privileged
people speak to power, power listens.
And when it comes here in in
Watsonville, we need to set a precedent.
We need to be one of the first majority
people of color communities to drop
flock.
And tomorrow is going to be a very very
very busy day actually. Um I've been
very busy with this last uh two weeks
because we're actually mobilizing people
to four cities in the Bay Area.
technically five but not for flock but
four cities tomorrow are voting on flock
and we've been having to lobby elected
officials and do press releases
community letters all the good stuff
because tomorrow east Palo Alto Sunnyale
Alama County and the city of Elserto are
all oing on flock on the same day
so we can't like a lot of us can't be
everywhere so we're hoping that the
locals will come out in droves to their
respective cities and get flock taken
down.
Sweet. And now I will pass it on to Nat
who will be talking about local
resistance to flocks and anti as an
anti- ice strategy.
Um, hi my name is N. Um, I am part of
Tajaro Valley for Ethan Studies and
Justice, but I'm also part of 18 Million
Rising, which is uh a national level um
organization that organizes like the
Asian-American Left. So, um we're also
we also work on campaigns and and one of
them, you know, is relevant to this. So
I just wanted to to um like follow on
Manny's um work and talk about so we've
seen that people at the local level can
win against block. Now I want to talk
about how that what we do here and what
you know they've done in Santa Cruz um
is part of actually of like a much
broader strategy that that um people are
doing that is is actually resisting ICE.
So um the point I want to make first off
is that the lo local battles against
drug are a part of a much bigger fight
specifically to target the the
corporations um that enable ICE to to
you know conduct its reign of terror
against our people.
And so I want to introduce you to this
kind of strategic framework that we use
in organizing um which is the pillars of
support framework. And so, um, you know,
like pillars, like the pillars hold up
the top of the building. And so, the top
of the building is ice. That picture is,
um, an ICE agent slipping on ice from
earlier this year. And the reason why I
chose to put that there, besides the
fact that it's funny, is that is to to
point out that ice is not this not just
this big monstrous thing in the
background. It's also made up of people.
people who need material support to be
able to do the things that they do. And
so the point that I'm making is that
they eyes cannot function without these
pillars of support. And so the key, you
know, one of the key pillars that we're
talking about today is information. Um
they get information from Fluff. They
get information from Palanteer. to get
information from all these different
corporations that sell them these this
information,
they need transport. And so we know that
in Minnesota um enterprise
rental cars were actually used by ICE
agents to kidnap people off the streets.
And so if you don't have transport
locally, we can't do that.
Um, so another example is is lodging.
You know, the ice if if they're going to
deploy ice to a place um they need a
place to sleep. And so Hilton is one of
the the the um the corporations that we
know has has you know vented to ICE and
and on a um consistent basis.
And then um actual deportation flights
like if you want to deport people you
need the to put them on a plane and and
send them to you know and so um
you can see a is canled out there
because they actually people actually
got a to um cancel their truck their
contract with us and so yeah this other
is doing it like other smaller charter
flight companies but the point here is
that these are all corporations. These
are all corporations that we know and
these are all corporations that because
they're they are profit driven entities,
they really depend on their reputation,
they really need to account to their
shareholders. So they are more um they
are more vulnerable to targeted
pressure from the public. And so if you
start chipping away at these different
pillars like different people, different
um cities and local communities, you
start breaking down these pillars, you
can get the building to fall.
And so one example is that this happened
if you remember you know a little not
that long ago um Ring was going to have
this contract with with Flock and
basically turn everyone's little
doorbell camera um into a surveillance
uh system and feed into Flock and they
ran this really deceptive
um video at the Super Bowl that that was
like trying to market this as like a way
to find lost dogs and people were mad
and this this didn't even involve any
kind of coordinated organization. People
were just angry. They wrote to them.
They had there was a backlash and then
Rain dropped its its contract. So this
is the power of consumers against
corporations.
So I want to highlight a few of these
examples. Um this is one big one. um
that Availa Airlines had this contract
to flock to to um you know carry out
these deportations
and there was 9 months of nationwide
community pressure but especially in
Connecticut um where it had a lot of um
more local like this was this is not
just like a charter airline but it also
has regular passengers on it. So that
was a way to pressure them. But they
used boycots, they pressured the
airports, they pressured politicians in
uh in Connecticut to end the subsidies
and state contracts if a government and
after 9 months they won.
So here are also some of these other um
ways that people are finding ice through
these material supports and one of them
is run primarily by the sunrise movement
which is a youthrun movement um and they
targeted Hilton hotels and with their no
sleep for ice which they've just gone to
these places where they know that ICE
agents are in those rooms and they have
a big party and play lots of music and
make sure that the ICE agents can't
sleep. All the other guests can't sleep
either. And so that disrupts both the
ICE operations and Hilton's businesses.
And that is one way of that they're
applying pressure among others.
Um and then this is these are others as
well. So Enterprise as I mentioned
before and Home Depot has kind
facilitated this by first having a lot
of lock cameras and also allowing their
parking lots um to be used by ICE
agents. And so these are examples of how
people have used um their direct action
as just regular people to disrupt this
business activity. And so the first the
first uh on the right that's just like a
video of people lining up the all booked
enterprise cars and then within the
window that they can still cancel them,
they cancel them all. So that kind of b
like ties up the inventory of the car
company and that clogs up their business
because they're not they can't learn to
ice because they have these reservations
that are going to be cancelled. Um and
it's just, you know, they're not they
don't want this. Um same with Home
Depot. There were a bunch of people who
all went into Home Depot. They all
bought an ice scraper for 19 cents and
then they all turned around and returned
it. And so that clogs up the stream of
income. It clogs up the store. And then
it also makes it really obvious to all
the other people that these um
corporations are complicit and actually
directly supporting um ISIS terror. So I
just want to point out these are
different campaigns. The first one is um
a more targeted campaign against
enterprise um that's actually headed up
by 18 million rising um and I will be
working on some of the the research and
political ad for that. But there's also
the no tech for ice which is targeting
places like Palanteer and other um big
um big tech companies and then the
schools drop ice campaign which is
aiming at organizing different colleges
to look at their contracts with these
enablers of ICE. So including um
enterprise including FL and all that.
So
this is, you know, we're here. Um,
that's us. We are we're we're we're
chipping away at that one pillar. Um,
and Watsonville has its part to play,
but like we're not alone. And this is
part of a much bigger work. So yeah, we
all, you know, go us.
Okay, so now we've learned about the
block cameras and we've learned what
community activism can do. So now that
we're in Watsonville, what can we do in
Watsonville? So, um,
so how many cameras do you all think we
have here? Do we have 11? Do we have
eight? 22? 37? How many people think we
have 11? Raise your hand.
How about eight?
How about 22?
How about 37?
Next one.
So, you're right. And we do have 37. And
out of all the three cities here in
Watsonville County, I mean in Santa Cruz
County, we have the most. So, Santa Cruz
had eight, Capitol had 10, and we have
37. Santa Cruz now has zero because they
cancelled their contract.
Capola, we're still working. We're we're
ahead of Capola in that sense. Uh but
we're still working on Capola and with
Watsonville. Um we're we're going to be
meeting actually with the chief of
police on Thursday morning. It took us a
month and a half to get that meeting,
but we finally got that meeting. So,
we'll be talking to him um and giving
him some of this information because he
doesn't think the information gets
shared. So, we're going to uh educate
him a little bit on that.
Um, so mass surveillance, like we know,
records every bicycle, every vehicle
when you're walking. It's there 27 uh I
mean uh 24 hours a day, 7 days a week,
uh days a week. It records where you go,
when you go, how often you go. And the
worst thing about it is that there's no
warrants. Anybody can get into it. as
you heard from Nanny's uh presentation,
anybody can access it. So, that's the
dangerous part of it that's recording
all this information about us and we
don't even know. We don't know who's
using that information. We don't know
who's uh who for what they're using it.
Um and as as as you saw in the video,
they were able to track this woman going
to work just because they were able to
to figure out her patterns from where
she went and where, you know, what time
was she at work, what time did she
leave. It tracks all those things.
So
like Luda said, you know, or and Manny
said, the police department swear up and
down that they do not share information.
And technically, they're right. They do
not literally physically share the
information but the information is
available because once it leaves it's
not stored in a hard drive. It's not
stored in some file room. It is on a
network and that information is
transferred to
uh Flock's database or their server farm
in Georgia. And so that information is
shared
um with Flock and Flock can give it to
anybody that they want. Or you know
other agencies you know there is a one
of the counties in California
unfortunately has been known to actually
take information or get information from
other jurisdictions and share that
information directly with Homeland
Security and ICE. And so when you, you
know, when the federal government gets
this information,
it puts our people at risk.
You know, um there are 16,000
approximately 16,000 undocumented
residents of Santa Cruz County.
The majority of those undocumented
residents live in the south county in
Watsonville.
35% of our population
is foreign born
and their family their the the families
that they've established here in the
United States.
But as we've seen, ICE doesn't care.
They take people because they're brown.
They take people because they speak with
an accent. They take people because they
look Mexican. and they take people
because of where they're working or
where they're shopping at that moment.
As you guys may have heard, we've had
ICE here a couple of times. They've
they've arrested someone or hassled
someone at Target
and you know, they've been around. So um
you know every time
jurisdictions sign a contract with flock
makes sure that they can use that data
for whatever they want for advertisement
for you know negotiations for the next
contract and so our information is not
secure and if our information is not
secure
then we are not secure.
So
um so one of the things that we that was
actually pretty alarming is to see um
where wherever these cameras are people
can look they can look in your gym they
can look in the park they can look
wherever those cameras are pointing
whatever it's capturing it some some
hacker can look at it. Um so if there's
a park with a bunch of little kids and
you know they're playing there by
themselves files can have access to
that. So we we never know who's looking
at it and because we don't have control
of the data, that's what makes it scary.
But the way that it's sold to us, it's
safety. Uh how many of you have seen uh
uh police departments say, "Hey, we use
flock to catch this person, right?" And
so we're like, "Hey, great. We we don't
want that criminal." But the thing
though is that those stories are like
this big compared to the amount of
information that they use and how often
we use it. And I tell people, you know,
I'm I'm a therapist. If I was 2%
successful, how many of you would come
see me? Right? But yet, that's about the
rate of of success that we use these
cameras that they're they they're
capturing uh or they're solving crimes
at a 2% rate of what they're using them.
Is it worth it? To me, it isn't. Not for
my privacy, not for my safety. So, but
whenever you see those stories, think
about how often you're seeing them. I
don't see them every day. I see them
once in a great while. So, they're
actually not really as helpful as they
claim they are. And um and a lot of the
times they do need the the um the
license plate anyway. So, if you already
have that information, why can't you do
it the old way where you had the
information, you go and spot the person,
you don't need these cameras? The the
the danger is so much worse than what it
gives us. It's really not worth it to
have it. So, just think about that. It's
really like a 1 to 2% success rate that
they're using these cameras for. But the
way that you that you hear about it, you
think like they're using them all the
time. They're really not.
So, I was talking to one of the people
that was here earlier. And you know, we
are not anti- police in the sense that,
you know, we want to they're horrible
people, but
they work for a corrupt system
and that system is based on racial
profiling that impacts people of color
the most. So, you know, as Manny was
talking about earlier, uh the neural
networks and the AI that are using it's
scary stuff. You know, I remember uh
when I was a younger man watching a
movie called Enemy of the State where it
was about, you know, it was a thriller.
It was a spy movie. It was about a
secret plan that the government cooked
up using satellites to surveil people
and they could get into your credit
cards and stuff like that. And it was a
fun movie because,
you know, you didn't think that that
technology was available. Well, that
technology is now available and it
disproportionately impacts people of
color. The the the criminal justice
system already has a strong bias against
people of color. Watsville is primarily
people of color. You do the math.
And and one of the things that um one
one of the things that's important to
remember is that this all this AI um
technology
is very poor when it comes to people of
color. It often misidentifies us. So um
you know even though they'll say like oh
we can capture this but a lot of the
times it's it's it it does a really poor
job with us. you know, um it's probably
like what happened in the 60s, uh when,
you know, Kodak was creating um it's
color film and people of color came out
really badly and it's because they were
not using people of color to make that
film. So, um I think it's probably
something similar is happening with AI.
So, we get misidentified all the time.
Um and just think about that. What if
you get wrongly identified? You get
thrown in jail by the time you get out.
I mean, everything that you have to go
through to clean up your name. Um, and
you know, as we see on the slide,
there's no accountability. Um, our
movements are stored. They can be
accessed by anybody. And, um, it there's
no way to, um, to account for for any of
that.
So one of the reasons why we believe
that this technology is being rolled out
especially at this time is because not
it's not primarily for
solving crimes. It's for promoting
order. It's for silencing disscent
when you're constantly under
surveillance. Uh, one of the things that
Manny had introduced us to was I think
it was the gentleman, the hacker that
you were talking about,
Ben Jordan.
Ben Jordan, who uh did an investigation,
and it's up on YouTube. You guys should
really watch it. It's It's really sad.
Uh but one of the segments of this
investigation showed this, you know,
gentleman looked like he was in his 30s
just kind of strolling around the park,
walking around,
you know, and he looks like he's kind of
nostalgic
and he starts to play on the swing set.
You know, how many of us have gone to a
park at our age now and said like, "Oh,
I'd love to go down that slide. I'd love
to play on those swing sets.
So,
when you're under surveillance, it
changes your behavior.
When you think people are watching you,
you you control yourself a little bit
more and you don't feel as free.
And that's what I think one of the
purposes of these cameras are. You know,
I actually didn't notice just until
about two weeks ago all of the cameras
that are in the Target shopping center.
Like I I looked up and I saw,
oh shoot, that's a flat camera. I went
to the next like 10 15 ft away, another
one. They are all over that shopping
center.
And again, the argument is well if
you're not doing anything bad, then why
do you care? you know,
because it's none of anybody's business.
As long as I'm not hurting someone
actively, it's nobody's business what I
do.
But the other thing too is um you know,
sometimes people will say, well, you
know, this doesn't affect me. Maybe now
it doesn't affect you. But what if what
if um in 6 months from now they they
decide, you know what, anybody who was
at that protest, we're we're going to
come after you. So now things that you
didn't think you did anything wrong, now
you're going to be charged for it. So we
got to be really careful about those
things. It's it's like that that poem
says, you know, first they came for
these people, then they came for these,
and then there was no one else to come,
you know, to protect me. So we always
got to think about that.
Um, so I'm going to skip to this because
we kind of already went through this the
data breach. Um, and so this is this is
where we want to talk about like what
are we doing? So um,
yeah. So May 2023,
the Watsonville City Council approved a
two-year contract and 20 cameras for the
city of Watsonville.
In September of 2025,
that two-year contract was extended or
renewed. And every Flock camera contract
is automatically renewed
unless the jurisdiction, the city
council, county board of supervisors
writes
to Flock
30 days prior to the expiration of that
contract saying that they do not want to
renew. And so this is important when you
guys are reaching out to your uh
electeds.
So 60 people went to speak at the city
council, but they ignored us
and they renewed that contract and they
added 17 more cameras. And the reason
they ignored us is because they said
that everybody who went there was from
Santa Cruz, which is not true because we
were there. There were people sitting in
this room who were there. So it wasn't
everybody, but that was the excuse they
used. Um, so it's really important that
we contact people um right now. So So
Vanessa Pos and Maria Rosco already
voted no. They didn't want the cameras.
Yes. We we met with Eduardo Montesino
and he was surprised and his comment was
well nobody complains to me about it.
And I said because they don't know
they're here. When people know they're
there, they're not going to want them
there. So that was his excuse like,
well, people don't complain to me about
it. So this is why it's important to
write to our city council members. Um uh
we we got in contact with Jimmy Dutra.
He refused to talk to us. He said, "Go
talk to your city council members."
Said, "We already did. We want to talk
to everybody. We want everybody to be
informed." and he said, "Yeah, I I don't
want to hear it because um my
constituents Yeah, you're not one of my
constituents and my constituents voted
for Measure M and Measure M was about
safety. It was about safety, but there
was nothing there about cameras." So, um
and then uh Casey Clark was one of the
first ones to say, you know, after we
all spoke, he was like, "Okay, let's
just vote for it." And he went for it.
But now he's having second thoughts
because now he's actually becoming
informed and aware of how these uh
cameras violate his privacy. So now that
it's affecting him, he doesn't like
them.
So um Casey Clark and
and he's also up for reelection.
Um as well as Ari Parker. Both of them
um are now kind of having second
thoughts. So we're going to try to meet
with them um and see if we can get them
to put this back on the agenda and uh
vote them out. So, what we want for
people who are here is please, please,
please write to your city council
members, get your neighbors to write to
your city council members, get your
friends, put it on Facebook, wherever
you can because that's what's going to
help.
The QR codes, the QR code at the top
will pull up a web page of all the city
council members,
their email addresses, their phone
numbers, and the districts that they
serve.
So again, we were told by at least by
Jimmy Dutra that he will only speak to
residents of his district. So if you
live in Jimmy Dutra's district, please
make sure to send them an email or a
thousand and let them know what you
think about FL
and if you can get a meeting with them,
we're well we're very happy to accompany
you to that meeting and help explain
that information. We're always happy
we're always happy to accompany anybody
who gets meetings with any other city
council members. Um, but just be sure
that you're one of their uh constituents
so they can't say you don't matter.
What if you work in their district?
They might be willing to repeat the
question.
So what if you're what if you work in
their district? Not that you necessarily
live in their district. If you're Yeah.
If you conduct your business in their
district, then you know, I think that
they'll listen to you. So
what whatever you can do, try it.
So, we're going to open it up for
questions in just a bit. But, um, the
second uh, so attend city council
meetings. It's important. You know,
recently there have been a lot more
people attending, but typical city
council meeting is maybe 10, 15 people
just kind of sitting waiting for their
business. Like I said, we took 60 people
when we heard that the contract was up
for renewal. I think it's probably one
of the biggest meetings that they've
had. They kind of didn't look like deers
in headlight, but unfortunately it
didn't stop them from doing what they,
you know, were going to do. This second
QR code here will take you to the Get
the Flock Out website.
There's a lot of information on how to
organize. Uh there is a map of the
cameras in Santa Cruz County. So the
cameras uh in Capola,
in Watsonville,
uh in some of the unincorporated places
up in the valley and things like that.
So um take a look at that. And
so
thank you for keeping us on time.
Buenos, my name is Diaz Gonzalez. Uh
here just have a couple slides to talk
about genuine community safety. I think
Gabriel and Ludas were already referring
to that, right? But really when we're
talking about redefining for me it's
really about redefining safety right and
that safety narrative out there right
now currently it's about law enforcement
right and that's what we think about
when we think about safety even some of
our elders and parents think about
safety as police for us really as folks
working in the community safety means
investing in our community right
acknowledging that there is systems that
have created harm for us and that we
need to reinvest back into our community
our young people our elders our million
as a whole, right? It's really about um
creating that paradigm shift, right?
Creating that paradigm shift to look at
safety as something that we can actually
do, right? Not something that is forced
upon us, but something that we're doing
in the community. So really, again,
looking at that paradigm shift to step
away from law enforcement. Again, I
think said it earlier, we're not anti
police. We are pro community, right?
We're about the community and ensuring
that our community is having those needs
met, right? So have to say that, right?
Because a lot of times we'll come across
like you're anti police. No, none of
that, right? Uh police have healthy
budgets. We want to make sure that those
budgets are transferring over to our
community. That also defines safety. So
really, when we talk about safety,
that's what we're talking about here,
right? Uh what is community safety?
Ensuring that our community has those
needs met, right? If we have food, if we
have shelter, if we have health
services, all that, we're not going to
be doing things. If we're not having our
basic needs met, things may happen in
the community, right? We're also talking
about connection, right? Family and rel
relationships across the board, right?
Whether it be family, neighbors, and
community, right? We like to say we're
all related. We're all interconnected
somehow, right? So, in that good way,
we're trying to build community. This is
also safety. Coming together, building,
having conversations sometimes that are
tough, right? That's those tough
conversations. We have them at home
sometimes. Sometimes we need to have
them in the community, too. How do we
have those tough conversations? Uh, and
not doing this no more because we've
been doing a lot of that. Right now, we
have to do more of this, right? There's
a lot of that happening out there. So,
how do we come together to actually
build community to come together to do
something radically different because
what we have done is not going to help
us no more. We have to find different
solutions to keep moving forward and
doing things differently. So really
again when we talk about safety it's
that whole this whole bandit approach is
not going to work no more right it's
been a banded approach all this time. So
really what we need to do is acknowledge
the systems that have been creating harm
for our communities. So when we talk
about safety that's in a nutshell how I
define it. Um and then we can go on to
this next slide. Um, this next side here
talks about some of the alternatives,
right? And I won't go too much into them
because I think I'm looking at the crowd
and some of the crowd here can probably
teach me some of these things too,
right? But really, when we talk about
root cause mitigation, again, no bandit
approaches, we need to look at those
root causes, right? Some of these
systems actually are not supporting our
communities, right? And these systems
are put in place for certain reasons,
right? So the systems have been in
patriarchy all the way from colonialism
all that has literally not been in the
best interest of our community. So, how
do we start acknowledging those root
causes, not abandoned approach? And I
tell people, we're not going to program
ourselves out of this, right? A lot of
times, oh, here's another program,
here's another program, and then that
problem gets cut like in a year or two,
right? So, really, how do we actually
address the root causes that are
impacting our communities? And that's
tough, right? Um, again, nonp police
crisis intervention, what does it look
like for us not to be calling the
police, right? We can police each other.
we cannot and I said we call our litas
and the grandmas and they'll police us
real quick, right? Uh but again, it's
really goes back to how do we build
those relationships, right? But how do
stabilize each other? How do we work in
community to start doing things
different? Because again, police a lot
of times show up after the fact.
Nothing against police, right? But they
usually show up after the fact and
they're not preventing the crime.
Let me jump in really quick. So what
like one of the nonviolent crisis
intervention that that uh is online that
people really uh go after is mobile
crisis. I I work for the mobile crisis
team and right now a lot of the calls
that went to the police now come to us.
Um so so the police was dealing with a
lot of mental health issues that they're
not trained to do and unfortunately
whenever there's an issue we call
police. They're not they're not there to
do all the different kinds of problems.
So that's one thing that really helped
the community is having this mobile
crisis team. Thank you for that. Um, and
again, police has become the go-to all,
right? Literally, we go to police for
everything. There's mental health,
there's restorative justice. They're
trying to do it all. When in reality,
it's like, well, actually, we just need
you to do that one thing. Let the
community take care of the rest, right?
Restorative justice, building,
connecting. Those are the things that we
do as a community. We don't need law
enforcement doing that. Unfortunately,
that's where a lot of the funding is
going and that's why the rest of us are
kind of struggling to figure it out,
right? And we're doing this on our free
time, a lot of us, right? Because it's
the need. The need is talking to
community, building, but for them, I
think it's something else. So, really
just building with the community
connected. Um, the next one I see here
is violence prevention through land use
policy, right? And really, that's really
going back to just investing in public
spaces for me, right? investing in
public spaces that are going to create
support our young people to do the
things that they need to do, right?
Creating those I say safe brave spaces.
We want safe but we want brave spaces
too, right? But we're actually going to
challenge, grow, and learn together,
right? That's what we're trying to do.
Again, what do they look like to have a
space where instead of I know currently
as a commissioner, we know that they are
building a new we know they have one
juvenile and they're building two extra
facilities up there at Juven Hall,
right? So for me, when you only have 10
people up there, why are we doing that?
Why not reinvest into the community
where our young people are at and give
them the spaces to thrive? Instead,
we're investing more millions of dollars
in a space where we have only 10 young
people and 30 plus staff. So for me,
reinvesting in land use in that way to
give especially in Watsonville where
there's I think we said Target. Why
there's so many cameras at Target? Cuz
that's our only shopping center, right?
There's no nothing else here in Watson.
So that's what happening. And lastly,
neighborhood watch, right? Neighborhood
watches, think relationship building.
How do we work with our relationship? I
think there's this concept of dynamic
security, right? Where if we take care
of each other, there's no reason for
things to happen in our community,
right? We are protecting each other. We
are nurturing each other and we're
providing that loving community for each
other. So, what does it look like? And
again, and even working with the police.
I know sometimes we don't want to work
with the police, but I think it takes
building with everybody in the village,
right? We have to deal with everybody.
And sometimes I know that I don't want
to work with police. It's all that. But
again, it's that trauma still there for
me. But we have to be inclusive of all
community, right? Not just the folks
that we want. We have to include
everybody in the community. And that
means all stakeholders and figuring that
out, right? Cuz again, like I said, I
got my own trauma with police. At the
same time though, I have to move past
that trauma so that we can find those
win-win scenarios for our community,
right? So really, it's about looking for
alternatives around safety. How do we
actually, you know, redefine safety and
actually start thinking about those most
impacted, right? Usually, it's people
and communities of color. So, when we
talk about redefining safety and
community safety, I think that's what
we're talking about, but also looking at
the alternatives so that we are not
impacting those most impacted already.
I think that's it, right? I think that's
why
and and the thing about neighborhood
watch that actually does show that it
reduces crime. So surveillance cameras
have been shown to reduce crime. And by
the way, Edasa is writing for
supervisors and person.
So now I want to introduce Dr. CHRISTINE
HONG
WHO created an excellent study guide
that she wants to share with you to take
away from this event.
Thank you. Um so you know we've this is
our seventh freedom school if you can
believe it and for virtually every
single one we've created
um an a a study guide right and I want
to say something about our organization.
So we're all wearing our our t-shirts.
It's Aro Valley for ethnic studies and
justice and um I wanted to just say that
we came together as a coalition and we
came around uh came together around
struggle for ethnic studies and um what
we realized was for it was actually
almost two years we were butting heads
with PBUSD school board and we realized
that um it was like talking into a brick
wall. And at some point,
it was so much so the case that there
was a high school student who turned his
back to the people who were on the board
and started addressing the people in the
audience because that felt so much more
generative than trying to speak to these
people who were not responsive at all.
So that was the original impetus for us
coming together. But we realized that we
couldn't just keep showing up at these
schoolboard meetings. We had to create a
space of political education
here in the community. And this is in no
small part because ethnic studies,
especially during a time when ethnic
studies is under attack, during a time
when ethnic studies is under fire and a
lot of people don't have the courage to
defend it and its possibility
and are caving right and left in so many
different ways. It's so important that
the only site for ethnic studies not be
institutionalized forms of education,
which is why this is the Freedom School.
And we created this to honor this long
legacy
of freedom and liberation schools that
are aimed at doing the work of
clarifying because so much of what we
actually get in our educational spaces
is confusing. It's inverted. It's a lie.
It's evasive. And so, you know, there
was a famous anti-colonial uh thinker
France Fanol who said that basically
education in the belly of the beast when
you're in the heart of empire that it
actually bewilders you and political
education is aimed at clarification.
Tonight was aimed at clarification. So,
I want to just like walk you through
just some key points here. And this I
tried to draw upon all the presentations
to just summarize and to capture some of
the points. But I wanted you to just
note like you know flock you know as
Maddie was saying flock actually you
know it's suggestive of birds but this
kind of flock is more like um an Alfred
Hitchcock horror show. Okay. So like you
have the raven, the falcon, the condor
and in congruously the sparrow. Okay.
But you know so this is what is flock. I
mean flock in bah valley no less. You
know this like sort of term bird you
know was something that was used birds
of passage was a kind of literary term
to describe migrants and birds of
passage. Ralph Ellen has this amazing
passage about how birds of passage are
so far from the recorders of sound that
they don't even like make they they they
can't even be recorded. And so it's
almost like the nobodies of the world
are the birds of passage. And this is an
area that historically has had so much
structural discrimination because it's
tied to the a industry and it's had a
revolving door of agricultural labor. So
against birds of passage you have
raptors being deployed.
Okay. And raptors are basically you know
raptors come that term raptor comes from
the Latin word repairing which means to
seize or to take by force. So let's take
this name very seriously flock.
Who is flock seizing and taking
by force? Right? Who is the intended
target of flock? So, we should ask
ourselves that question. And I want you
to see the next page too because very
interestingly earlier this year in
February, the interim police chief David
Rodriguez stated before Watsonville city
council that flock is quote a true force
multiplier.
Force multiplier. What kind of jargon is
that? It's military.
It's military jargon. And in the
military, the US military, a force
multiplier is something. It could be a
technology, form of technology like
flock, a tool, it could be a tactic that
increases the lethality, the lethal
capability of a combat unit against an
enemy target
without requiring more boots on the
ground. So we have to understand that
when the intra police chief is saying
that flock is a force multiplier,
there is a construction that is implied
of local residents of Watsonville
being an enemy population that's
supposed to be targeted.
And so, um, we might ask them like,
"Wait a second. So, Flock is worth $ 8.5
billion. It's built, it's a police
surveillance company. It's done
remarkably well for a relatively new
startup. And it's built itself as an
automatic license plate reader company."
But we that's like, "Wait a second.
We know the answer to this. Isn't it
just a technology that reads license
plates?" And not at all. As Manny was
saying, it's not just vehicles. It's not
just vi bicycles. It's classes of people
according to race,
perceived gender, height, weight, all of
these different kinds of categories. Um,
and that's according to its patent. You
could see here too that the ACLU
basically stated, yeah, no, don't be
fooled. It's not just for reading
license plates. Um, instead what it they
said was Flock's aggressive expansions
go far beyond simple driver
surveillance. I want us to think about
what happens when Flock is in place
because it's only the starting point and
it's a slippery slope to more
authoritarian intervention into
everyone's lives. And so this is what I
was saying like it's actually a force
multiplying police surveillance company
that strengthens the repressive organs
of the state. It works interoperably
with homeland security. That's the
purpose of the um the fusion centers
homeland security like when it came
about and if people recall like you know
if you were around then you know some of
you might be too young but if you recall
um the US declaration of a war on terror
and the creation of homeland security it
was the biggest federal reorganization
of the government since the creation of
the national security state and it did
something that the national security
state did as well, but it said it
overtly. The purpose of Homeland
Security was to wage multidirectional
warfare, not just abroad, but against
domestic populations as well. And so,
you could see that it's part of Homeland
Security, ICE, and what Nat was calling
corporate pillars of support. It
supports the deportation machine. So,
what are some of the dangers? You could
see that in Oakland, a law firm
basically filed a classaction lawsuit
against Flock. It described the company
as
creating Orwellian mass surveillance
sur infrastructure and that enables it
to track millions of Californians daily
movements and then illegally share that
information with outofstate law
enforcement agencies violating to the
tune of millions of times as Burgess was
saying California law privacy law. And
so I wanted to just say something here
too and I'll just go through this really
quickly. This is you can use this as
political a um education and we'll have
downloadable forms as well as well as
bilingual ones as well. So some some of
uh the people who spoke spoke about Ben
Jordan and actually just spoke about
this that you could easily hack this and
you can watch in live time. It's not
just police surveillance. Bless you.
It's anyone's surveillance. Okay. And um
I want you to see the last part too
because I was talking about the implicit
militarized logic. Look at what Flock is
doing right now. Okay. Flock has created
another product called Aerodome.
This is not minority report like just a
fiction, right? This is actually what
Flock has created. So, it creates drones
as first responders.
Okay, this is a law enforcement tool
that not only surveills the hell out of
everyone, but uses drones as firstline
responders. This dystopian reality is
here. And I want to say something and
this is old school, but you know um this
is the month when LA 1992 happened.
And you know um one thing that people
said who were growing up in South
Central is they said that as kids time
and again cops would stop them in the
streets and just take photos of them.
Just take photos of them doing nothing.
But just the mere act of taking a photo
put them in a system
that had basically constructed them as
future criminals.
Okay. So this is right now like this is
something that the theorist Ray Chow
said from Hiroshima onward the act of
sight the act of sight is so
wound up with military technology
technologies of mass destruction the
atomic bomb so from World War II onward
to see is not to believe to see is to
destroy and that's what flock does. So,
I just wanted to just go I'm almost done
here and I'll just say
you're doing good.
So, this a Watson's little exception and
this is something that people know so
well here too. And so, you know, this is
something that Bernie, who's in the
house, actually stated I thought it was
so eloquent that basically that it's no
coincidence that Glock is
disproportionately deployed here and
it's deployed. It's military technology,
right? And that, you know, Scots Valley
doesn't have cameras. Santa Cruz got rid
of theirs, but the place South County,
which has a majority of people of color,
and Bernie said, "You have the audacity
to block 37, right?"
Speaking to the city council, it's like,
"Fuck you." Seriously, because you
you in doing that, how dare you
condescendingly say that you know what's
right and you know what's best. And so
you could see that Sandy Leiden said
that Watsonville has always been treated
as an economic and political um colony
and you could see what Gabe Barza said
about undocumented people. that the
question that we should ask is who gets
to decide and define what constitutes
safety and whose interests are served by
that definition. And so you can see here
too that um
I want to just go to the new police
chief Brian Shaw. So Brian Shaw came in.
Where did he come from everyone?
San Jose.
San Jose. How many flock cameras over
there?
500.
Almost 500. Okay. And he came in. He's
like, "I'm not going to make Watsonville
a mini San Jose." Okay,
that's exactly what he's doing by
pushing for flock. And he also, this is
what he said. I can look you in the eye
and tell you that I'm confident that our
data is not and will not be used for
immigration enforcement. This is one of
the things he said. Here's another thing
that he said. There isn't a single case
where flock was used during a civil
immigration investigation by ICE. So I
want us to see something here.
The people of San Jose filed a lawsuit
against this, claiming that precisely
what Chief Sh says has not happened has
happened. Okay? And then also look at
what the ACLU says. quote, "The
company's surveillance data is being
used by ICE." End quote. And that also
even when police departments try to opt
out, Flock can share that data.
So
just the last thing that I'll just say
is like who's ruling Watsonville here?
Um, this is what Ben Jordan, that
YouTuber, suggested. If you're in touch
with your county or city council, keep a
record of your correspondence with them.
Call them, but also email them, right?
Let them know and fully realize that if
someone gets stopped, robbed, harassed,
abducted as a result of a reported
security vulnerability by a third party
surveillance vendor, they'll be on
record for having known about it, but
having approved it anyways. And they can
explain that to their voters and
constituents. Monteino F. Kuros Carter
A. Orosco Aceto F Casey Clark F Dutra F
Ari Parker F minus
she just
so this is just to say I want to end by
underscoring
Elas Gonzalez because we need to have
people who have the imagination
and the vision and the trust that the
community can create its own safety.
Okay? And this is what Eliia said. If
we're serious about safety, don't spend
money on these these basically
weaponized forms of technology. Invest
in community, youth, families, and
resources, okay? That make life
possible.
Safety isn't just about responding to
problems.
It's not just about criminalization.
It's not about locking people up, right?
It's about building a community
where those problems are less likely to
happen in the first place. And so, yeah,
with that, I'll end with last word to
Edas Gonzalez whom we should all
support.
Heat. Heat.