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KELLY. ALL RIGHT, DANA,
THANK YOU. JOINING US NOW IS
FOUNDER AND CEO OF FLOCK
SAFETY GEAR AT LANGLEY.
GARRETT, IT IS GREAT TO HAVE
I'M VERY INTERESTED IN YOUR
TAKE ON ALL OF THIS. OF YOU
HEARD BEN, IT LAID OUT THEIR
SUPPORTERS SEE THIS AS A CRIME
FIGHTING TOOL. CRITICS SAY
THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS PRIVACY
CONCERNS. SO WHY DID YOU TAKE
ON THIS MISSION.
WHAT PROBLEM ARE YOU
LOOKING TO SOLVE.
YEAH. KELLY, THANKS FOR
HAVING ME. AND LOOK LIKE LIKE
A LOT OF YOUR LISTENERS. I'M A
FATHER OF 3 LITTLE KIDS. AND
AS A FATHER OF OBLIGATION
WHICH IS TO KEEP THEM SAFE.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE FOR EVERY
CHILD AND FOR ME, I STARTED
THIS COMPANY WITH 2
CO-FOUNDERS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE
THAT EVERYONE HAS A
FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO BE SAFE
FOR GAZA POINT ZIP CODE. YOU
WERE BORN
WELL, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A
FABULOUS MISSION FOR PARENTS
ALL OFOF US AMERICANS. BUT SENS
ITS INTEGRATION. THESE CAMERAS
IN 23 JURISDICTIONS NATIONWIDE
HAVE BEEN VOTED TO BE CANCELED
OR REJECTED THERE BEEN A
NUMBER OF CASES WHERE OFFICERS
ENTERED MISLEADING CASE
INFORMATION TO MAKE
UNAUTHORIZED SEARCHES APPEAR
LEGITIMATE OFFICERS SOMETIMES
TRACKING ROMANTIC PARTNERS OR
FRIENDS WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION.
SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO
INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE REAL
CONCERNS THAT THESE CAMERAS
ARE OUT THERE THAT THEIR
PRIVACY IS AT RISK.
YEAH, LOOK, I THINK IT'S AN
IMPORTANT CONVERSATION. WE
SHOULD TO BE CLEAR, ANY LEVEL
OF ABUSE GREATER THAN 0 OF
FLOCK OR ANYTHING. PLEASE TOOL
IS UNACCEPTABLE. WHEN YOU'RE
GIVEN POWER, WHICH IS WHAT WE
GIVE TO LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
ACCOUNTABILITY HAS TO BE
THERE. AND SO AS WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WE
INTRODUCED A TOOL 9 YEARS AGO,
LONG WE'VE CONTINUED TO MAKE
IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT CONCERNS.
YOU SEE THIS INCREASE IN
ACCOUNTABILITY THAT'S BEING
HEARD. WE'RE SHINING A LIGHT
AND WE'RE TURNING ON A LIT A
PROBLEM THAT EXISTED FAR
BEFORE FLOCK AND WE HOPE TO BE
A PART OF THE FOR FUTURE
SOLUTION. AS RELATES TO THE
POLICE ABUSE OF THEIR POWER.
SO THE AUDIENCE THAT ARE IN
PLACE RIGHT DO ARE THEY ABLE
TO CHECK ANY MALPRACTICE WITH
THESE CAMERAS BEFORE IT
HAPPENS OR IS IT JUST
REACTIONARY. HOW DOES IT WORK?
YEAH. I'M GLAD YOU ASKED.
SO EVERY ACTION AND FLOCK IS
STORED THAT'S BEEN THE CASE
SINCE WE STARTED THE COMPANY.
WHAT'S NEW IS ABOUT 4 MONTHS
AGO. WE BUILD IN ASSISTANCE TO
WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM
COMMUNITIES, FROM POLICE
CHIEFS. WE DON'T WANT BAD
ACTORS IN OUR POLICE
DEPARTMENT EITHER. AND AS YOU
HEARD THE CHIEF OR MOHRSVILLE
HE AGREES AND SAID THIS ON
ASSISTANT TOOL AS SOON AS IT
DETECTS ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR AND
FLAGS IT TO THE ADMINISTRATOR
TO REVIEW THE ACTION AND IN
THE CASE, AS YOU SAW MARYVILLE
TAKE ACTION TO CHARGE THAT
INDIVIDUAL WITH LEGAL
PRECEDENT.
RIGHT. AND IN SOME OF THESE
CASES, THE UNAUTHORIZED
INFORMATION WAS ABLE TO BE
OBTAINED IN AND THAT'S WHY
WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW,
SUBSEQUENT ACTION WITH PEOPLE
LOSING THEIR JOBS. SO WAS IT
THE FAULT OF THE AUDIT, BUT IT
WASN'T PREVENTING THAT
ACTIVITY FROM THE OUTSET ARE
THEY'RE STILL AREAS THAT
YOU'RE WORKING OUT TO SHORE UP
AND ENSURE THAT ONLY CRIMINALS
ARE BEING TARGETED HERE.
YEAH. I THINK IT'S A GREAT
QUESTION AND TO BE CLEAR, I
THINK THAT BEFORE FLOCK
EXISTED THERE WAS POLICE
ABUSE. AND WITH FLOCK, WHAT
WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SHINE A
LIGHT ON THAT ACTIVITY. NOW,
WHAT WE WILL CONTINUE IS BILL
NOVEL SOLUTIONS TO NOT ONLY
FIND IT FASTER BUT WHEN IT
DOES HAPPEN TO LONG
IMMEDIATELY AND HOLD THOSE
INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTABLE.
SO ONE BIG CONCERN THAT WE
HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM
AMERICANS IS ABOUT HOW LONG
THIS DATA IS STORED AND WHO
ACTUALLY HAS ACCESS TO IT
WOULD YOU MIND SHINING A LIGHT
THERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT
WOULD CLEAR UP A LOT OF
CONFUSION FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE
THESE MAJOR CONCERNS.
YEAH. NO, I THINK THAT'S
GREAT. AND LET'S TALK ABOUT
HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS IT'S
PRETTY SIMPLE. FLOCK IS NOT ON
THE DAY OUR CUSTOMERS TO SEND
CITIES THAT'S NEIGHBORHOODS
ITS BUSINESSES BY DEFAULT. THE
DATA IS STORED FOR 30 DAYS AND
THEN PERMANENTLY DELETED NOW
IN THE CASE WHERE THEIR
DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED BODIES,
CITY COUNCIL, A STATE
REGULATOR WHERE THERE ARE
DIFFERENT DESIRES BE A SHORTER
ATTENTION LIKE IN THE STATE OF
WASHINGTON WHERE IT'S 21 DAYS
OR LONGER LIKE IN THE CASE IN
NEW JERSEY WHERE IT'S 5 YEARS.
WE FOLLOW THE LAW. SO 30 DAYS
BY THE FALL AND