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Good morning, Bro Daily Show. I'm Neil
Freyman.
And I'm Toby Howell.
Today, what's fueling the backlash to
Flock cameras?
Then, why Wall Street is twos in Texas.
It's Tuesday, August 11th. Let's ride.
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flights, but nothing quite like the one
experienced by Porter Airlines
passengers on Thursday. As a flight from
British Columbia to Toronto was
preparing to take off, a child refused
to sit down and buckle their seatbelt
despite desperate attempts by parents
and the crew. This kid was stubborn and
simply wouldn't do it. So, the flight
had to be canceled and all the
passengers had to leave the plane. To
make things worse, it was super late,
past 12:30 a.m. So, everyone had to go
home and come back to fly out the next
day. Toby, they might have to put this
family in witness protection.
This is the final boss of babies on
planes. We've all sat next to one that
wouldn't stop crying, but a screaming
one that won't sit down and makes you
miss your flight. That's some children
of the corn type stuff right there. I
feel bad for the parents. I mean, a
toddler meltdown is an unstoppable
force. You can't control when or where
it happens. My mom, true story, once
locked me out of the car before I
settled down. It was very effective. But
obviously, Reddit has complained about
this in the past. One poster replied to
a similar incident saying, "I would
seriously pay extra to go on adult-only
flights."
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This just in, Americans don't like being
mass surveilled. This summer, opposition
to Flock cameras sprouting up across the
country has reached a fever pitch, maybe
even surpassing the outrage directed
against data centers. In July, more than
20 local jurisdictions canceled their
deals with Flock or made plans to, the
highest amount for a single month on
record. In response to public backlash,
Los Angeles hit pause on 138
pole-mounted security cameras operated
by Flock. In other communities, Flock
cameras have been vandalized and
officials have put bags over them
instead of renewing their contracts. So,
what is Flock and why is it so
controversial? It's a company worth 8.4
billion dollars that leases cameras to
homeowners associations, businesses, and
most importantly, law enforcement in
order to prevent crime and track down
perpetrators. These cameras run an
automatic license plate recognition
system that IDs cars passing by and
stores the information in a database
powered by artificial intelligence.
Flock has been super popular with local
towns and cities because it's seen as an
effective tool to help catch criminals.
Currently, 40% of all law enforcement
departments in the US, 7,000 of them,
deploy Flock cameras. But for many
regular Americans, the cons outweigh the
benefits. They warn that Flock is
essentially creating a dragnet that
could be abused by the government to
track and target political opponents or
be abused by rogue law enforcement
members. Toby, I just did this
yesterday. If you want to spark a debate
in the group chat, you got to bring up
Flock.
Let's dive into both sides and see what
the group chat is talking about. The
case for Flock lies in public safety.
Flock argues that it's a very effective
crime-fighting tool. Uh there's a 2023
study from Flock that says it was
involved in preventing roughly 700,000
crimes per year. That's approximately
10% of all reported US crimes. A more
recent study uh bumped that number up to
1 million cases last year. They said
that they solved 10,000 missing
purchasing missing person searches. But
again, the strongest evidence is coming
from Flock itself, so take that with a
grain of salt. But cities have shown
that it is helping. Uh Boulder, Colorado
is a good example. They claimed a 34.5%
drop in motor vehicle theft after they
installed 31 cameras. So, that is kind
of the case for Flock is that if you
have a lot of uh surveillance technology
that can track license plates and, you
know, create this net of where a vehicle
has been or is going, that makes it a
lot easier to apprehend these criminals.
That is going to be what you're going to
hear from people who defend Flock.
And that is exactly why there's been
such opposition to Flock as well,
because the fact that these cameras are
so ubiquitous, there are 120,000 of them
across the country creates what people
call a dragnet or a mosaic of
surveillance, where they're creating the
infrastructure for a government to track
you. And they say that, well, maybe the
intentions are good to prevent crime,
the abuses could be so much greater to
civil liberties. They point to perhaps
ICE working with Flock. Flock has denied
it works with ICE, but critics say it
could easily get around that. And then
there's just abuses by police officers
or law enforcements who have access to
this technology can track whoever they
want. The Institute for Justice, a
libertarian public interest law firm,
said they counted 30 cases where
officers have used Flock cameras to,
guess what, stalk romantic interests.
So, they say that there there's too many
pitfalls, there's too many possibilities
of these cameras maybe possibly also
violating the Fourth Amendment and and
just being illegal. So, they're mounting
a grassroots and a legal opposition
that's been actually fascinating to
watch.
It is also fascinating how bipartisan
this is because it's liberals, it's
conservatives, it's libertarians that
are all kind of uh blending together. Uh
Republican Commissioner Josh Young
described a coalition against uh Flock
cameras as we had work boots and Subarus
in our parking lot and they were united
in their position against Flock cameras.
One of the biggest and most outspoken
voices against Flock is Tucker Carlson
actually. He's really taken the mantle
there and pushed it into conservative
politics. He calls it the largest mass
surveillance operation in history part
of becoming uh and he's horrified about
it. So, it is a wide swath of Americans
who feel uncomfortable with this, which
is why you're seeing, you know, groups
called Deflock pop up and are literally
either vandalizing cameras or, you know,
going through the proper channels to get
them taken down.
Yeah, Deflock is very interesting. So,
it's this app that is a crowdsourced map
of Flock cameras. It's been downloaded
more than 350,000
times. It is super popular. The CEO of
Flock has called this a terroristic
organization, which he later walked back
and said I didn't actually mean that,
but it is certainly a grassroots
opposition that's showing up at your
local town and community. It's putting
pressure on local law enforcement, towns
and cities who have been using Flock and
we saw a lot of them cancel their
contracts in July. Flock's response is
that actually this is a vocal minority.
For every one contract that's canceled,
we get another seven that sign up for
Flock because it is such a useful crime
uh crime-fighting tool. This probably
ends up in the courts to be honest. The
ACLU has sued, there's a bunch of
lawsuits ongoing about whether this does
violate the Fourth Amendment. Right now,
courts have mostly sided with Flock
saying "Not yet, because they're not
creating this mosaic yet." But once you
do create the mosaic, that's where
there's the potential for courts to step
in and say, "Okay, maybe we need to
regulate this or crack down." Because
right now, Flock is everywhere, but it
is not winning the PR war. Up next, last
week you heard how rivers in Europe are
drying up. Now, it's our turn to have a
water crisis. Lake Mead, the largest
reservoir in the United States, has
recorded its lowest water level since it
was first created in the '30s
construction of the Hoover Dam. As of
Sunday, the water was 1,040 ft above sea
level, lower than the previous record
set in 2022. It's the culmination of a
slow-moving emergency that threatens
water access to 40 million people across
seven states in the Southwest who rely
on the reservoir not only for drinking
water, but to power households, irrigate
farms, and keep factory lights on. Lake
Mead, located on the Arizona-Nevada
border, is fed by the Colorado River,
but years of overuse, drought, and
extremely hot temperatures have depleted
its reserves. And the same goes for its
sister reservoir, Lake Powell, which is
also losing its water. Last month,
researchers at the University of
Colorado found that combined, Lake Mead
and Powell contain less water than at
any point in their history. So, how does
this end? We don't know, but it's
getting testy. The seven states making
up the Colorado River Basin have been
locked in intense negotiations on
splitting up the remaining water, but
they haven't come to an agreement, and
in the absence of a deal, the federal
government is planning to step in and
announce drastic cuts in drawing water
from Lake Mead. Toby, you can draw a
direct line from the water levels in
Lake Mead to the ability for people to
live in the Southwest, and it's looking
increasingly grim.
Yeah, Lake Mead supplies water to 20 to
25 million people, and that's just the
actual drinking water. There's a lot
more things that water is used for, like
agriculture, like actually powering uh
the dam itself, the Hoover Dam. If Lake
Mead falls another 5 ft, some Hoover Dam
turbines would have to shut down the
critical number here is 1,035 ft. If it
falls below that, then you do have a
hydropower threshold that cannot be
overcome. The Hoover Dam powers
electricity to serve roughly 1.3 million
people. So again, it's not just about if
you can water your lawn or if you can
take a shower, it's about if your home
will literally have a power and that's
why the shrinking, you know, containment
of Lake Mead is just such a scary thing
right now.
So if you went to Colorado to ski this
winter, you noticed that there wasn't a
lot of snow. And really snowpack is one
of the main reasons why we're seeing
such low water levels at Lake Mead. Last
winter, as many people know, the
Colorado River Basin had the worst
snowpack on record. And then that's just
not the livelihood lifeblood of the
economy in Colorado in the winter. It
also has huge impacts downstream,
literally, in summer because you don't
have snowpack in the winter, then that
stuff is not melting and it's not
filtering through the Colorado River
into Lake Mead. So the big problem is
snow. And actually I was in Colorado
last weekend on the literal Colorado
River rafting and we had to look at the
water levels because they've been low.
There's just been a huge drought all
over the course of the past few weeks
and we had to make sure that the water
levels were enough because there's just
no snow melting from the tops of these
mountains.
I mentioned that the scary number was
1,035 ft. The real scary number is
actually 900 ft. That is, you know, a
catastrophic scenario beyond
imagination, but that's when it becomes
Lake Mead becomes known as a dead pool.
The water level is so low that the
reservoir or that the water can no
longer flow downstream, which really
does threaten everything from farmland
all the way to the water supplies of Los
Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, you know,
this this supply is basically all of the
Southwest. So keep an eye on that on
that number because each inch and each
foot it drops represents, you know,
billions of gallons of water that are
slowly
getting drawn down. I thought a good way
to think about Mead and a Powell. This
came from a professor at Arizona State.
She's at the center for water policy.
She described the two reservoirs as the
region's savings account and the they
have been drawing down that savings
account for years. It's the same thing
that happens with your bank account. If
you don't replenish the water from
working, if you don't replenish the
water from the snowpack, then you do not
have it to withdraw from in the future.
It doesn't just magically replenish
itself. Moving on, Mark Zuckerberg is
under a lot of pressure right now. Not
only is his old friend of me Eduardo
Saverin lining up a move to own part of
Liverpool, but Meta's foray into AI has
been shakier than the rest of Big Tech.
So, yesterday the Meta CEO sat down and
wrote a long manifesto laying out his
vision for how Meta will approach AI
while also pushing back against some of
the increasingly gloomy predictions
coming from the industry. The main
takeaway is that Zuck is beating the
open-source drum again. He was an early
proponent of releasing the models his
company created to the world for
everyone to tinker with, but after
falling behind Anthropic and OpenAI,
Zuck went back to a closed approach to
get his own house in order. Now that the
models Meta is pumping out are more
competitive, Zuck is back to his
original views that AI should be widely
distributed and not controlled by a
handful of companies. He also took a
different tone from the doom and gloom
approach often adopted by Anthropic CEO
Dario Amodei. Zuck thinks that everyone
will have an exceptionally capable
personal agent that understands you,
your goals, and everything you care
about. To reach that goal, though, Zuck
acknowledges that we're going to need a
lot of pretty unpopular data centers and
used the letter to announce a $1 billion
fund to invest in communities near those
data centers. The bigger play here is
positioning. As the AI backlash grows.
Zuck is betting Meta can become the
industry's optimist and hopes to
convince everyone along the way that
abundance is actually the safer path.
Neil, this thing also had an abundance
of words, 6,500 of them. What did you
take away other than Zuck yearns to be
an English major?
My thoughts immediately turned to not
what was in the essay, but why he wrote
it in the first place because Mark
Zuckerberg, busy guy, not sure he's
going to spend some time writing 6,500
words unless it he thinks it'll make a
big impact or there was a calculated
strategy behind it. Obviously, I don't
think he wrote it all himself, but I
think Zuck thinks there's an opening
here for an AI optimistic message
because you have Dario Amodei of
Anthropic out here saying, "Look, we
think AI is going to wipe out 50% of all
white-collar jobs." And Sam Altman is
also of OpenAI has also promoted a more
doomer, at least in the past, a more
doomer view of what AI will happen. And
Zuck thinks there's an opening here for
Meta to step in and say, "Actually, we
want to empower you with
superintelligence tools to make your
life easier." And the subcontext of this
is that Meta is not winning the AI race.
It is behind. It doesn't have the most
powerful models. So, he thinks there's
an opening here for to to promote a more
optimistic version. And he said in this
essay, "I don't understand why anyone
who believes that AI will eliminate most
jobs and much of humanity's relevance
would rush to build that future." And
that is a complete subtweet of Anthropic
and OpenAI which Meta is currently
behind. But, he thinks with this new
vision, it could perhaps leap leap
ahead.
Yeah, he's pushing back against the
fears. His argument is that humanity has
always feared these transformational
technologies. They always fear that it
would destroy jobs or society, but he
believes that ultimately humans always
overcome that. But, he does talk a lot
about who controls AI and who should be
responsible for it. He actually wants
government oversight still. That's been
a big sticking point in the AI industry
is that these companies train these
models, they go to release them to the
public, and the government goes, "Wait,
actually we want to review it for 30
days." And he says that is absolutely
unacceptable when you have China pumping
out open-source models every single day.
You know, AI progress is measured in
days now, not months or years. And so,
he's
uh advocating for the government to be
involved earlier within the training
itself, and then they can check in at
intermittently rather than delaying a
model after its release. So, that's one
big thing. He also doesn't want Mark
Zuckerberg making the final call when it
comes to the AI models that Meta is
putting out. He wants the board to have
more authority over AI. He says, "I do
not think it is in my, Meta, or the
world's best interest for me or anyone
else to be the sole decision-maker on
how superintelligence is deployed."
Again, probably a subtweet of Dario
Amadei and Sam Altman who are running a
more closed operation. But yeah, you can
you can read between the lines in
everything he says, and also see how it
benefits Meta on the other side.
All right, we're going to take a quick
break and come back with uh Toby's
Trends right after this. There's two
rules to becoming a new financial center
in America. One, you need to create a
welcoming climate to financial firms and
their employees. And two, you need a
funny moniker that sounds like Wall
Street. Texas has nailed both, growing a
new financial district with the nickname
Y'all Street. A trend I want to talk
about on today's edition of Toby's
Trends. You're just as likely to
encounter a Patagonia vest as a cowhide
one in Dallas these days, but it's not
just the smell of barbecue that is
pulling the suits down south. Lower
taxes, laxer regulations, and aggressive
courting from state political leaders
has led to a finance bro explosion.
Finance jobs in Dallas have grown 23%
since 2020, outpacing New York at just
6% growth. As of June, finance,
insurance, and real estate employed
317,000
people in Dallas, which accounted for
10% of the total employment in the city.
Residents need only look out the window
to see the roots of finance spreading.
Goldman Sachs is building a 800,000
square foot Dallas campus scheduled to
open in 2028. Bank of America is setting
up shop in a 30-story office tower right
next door, but no one has embraced the
Lone Star State quite like J.P. Morgan,
which now employs more people in Texas
than in any other state, including New
York. Heck, Texas even has its own stock
exchange these days, the Texas Stock
Exchange, which began trading this
summer in an attempt to create an
alternative to the traditional New York
establishment. You know, everything from
the politics to the policy have been set
up to attract this industry. Ella
Langley isn't the only one who's chosen
Texas.
If you've read Liar's Poker, which is
the 1989 book from Michael Lewis about
Solomon Brothers and Wall Street, then
you know the phrase equities and Dallas,
and it wasn't a uh it wasn't a term of
endearment. It was a pejorative phrase,
where if you work for Solomon Brothers,
and then they told you to go work in
Dallas, then that was seen as they're
putting you in in the penalty box, in
timeout, because you would just have a
back office role. So, back then, just a
few decades ago, working in equities in
Dallas, working in the stock market on
quote unquote Wall Street or Y'all
Street in Dallas was seen as a demotion,
but now it's seen as, you know what?
That maybe it's a pretty good way of
life. You have a huge mansion in the
northern Dallas suburbs, and you got to
work your maybe your work-life balance
is a little bit better. You have all
these uh these tax advantages that
Dallas uh and Texas brings to you. So,
not only are finance firms expanding
there, there is a growing sense that you
can actually work in finance and be the
top dog also in Texas.
Why is Texas so dang attractive to
finance outside of, you know, the taxes
and everything. Well, one, it's growing.
It has a growing a population. That
means that there's a larger hiring a
pool there, and you have also a larger
potential client base. That's one thing.
And then two, there's uh migration,
corporate migration that is. Texas now
has more Fortune 500 companies than any
other state, including more than
California, more than New York. Tesla is
kind of the big one and I guess SpaceX
at this point uh set down their roots.
Elon Musk fan of just the lighter touch
regulation that Texas affords you. And
if all the major companies and all the
major executives are moving to Texas,
then the financial institutions that
serve them have, you know, an incentive
to put important bankers right nearby
them as well. So, it's kind of a
self-fulfilling cycle right right there.
The more that companies are interested
in Texas, the more that financial firms
are going to follow them.
And if you ask Texas officials about why
this is happening, they'll say, "It's
not a coincidence. We actually put our
thumb on this scale and we made laws and
uh a marketing campaign that actually
changed things and then made our state
more attractive." Ernie John Eric
Johnson, who's the Dallas mayor,
basically called Dallas a sanctuary city
from socialism and wanted to juxtapose
uh Texas's way of life and its laws from
New York and California. California is
perhaps imposing a a tax on
billionaires. And Morris Zarin Mamdani,
the mayor of uh of New York, hasn't been
exactly friendly to business. They also
say, "Look, we actually passed laws
through through the state legislature
that makes it a more appealing
destination. We shield executives and
directors from shareholder litigation,
which they definitely don't do in
Delaware, which is where many companies
are incorporated. We have this capital
markets package uh capital markets
package that went through the Texas
State House that bans taxes on
securities transactions. So, if you want
to be if you don't if you're an
executive, you don't want to be sued by
shareholders, you don't want to pay as
many taxes as you do in other states,
come on down, the water's fine.
I like Y'all Street. I think it works.
You know, it's a little on the nose, but
it just kind of plays and they're
actually thinking of uh making the
symbol of Y'all Street the charging
bull, but with a lasso around his neck,
which, you know what? Pretty good
branding right there.
Let's sprint to the finish with some
final headlines. Nvidia announced a
partnership with all of Wall and Y'all
Street yesterday, including Blackstone,
BlackRock, Apollo, KKR, Brookfield, and
Goldman Sachs to assemble a $500 billion
funding package for AI infrastructure.
Half a trillion dollars is roughly the
size of Thailand's entire annual
economy, which would make this one of
Wall Street's most ambitious financing
efforts ever. The idea is to turn AI
compute into something investors can
borrow against. "This is really the
first time that technology chips have
become an investable asset class,"
Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang told CNBC. "The
AI build-out is getting so expensive
that even the richest tech companies are
feeling the strain. Rather than forcing
them to fund every GPU purchase from
their own balance sheets, Nvidia wants
institutional capital to come in and
pick up more of the tab." Neil, for
Nvidia, this means one very useful
thing, making it easier for customers to
keep buying Nvidia chips.
Yeah, some have pointed out that
Nvidia's trying to turn its chips into
airplanes because if you're an airline,
you never pay cash for an airplane. It's
not like I go up to you and say, "Hey,
can I have 10 737s, Boeing?" There's
this whole complex financial system
where investors buy planes and airlines
lease them from them. The ticket revenue
services the debt, and then there's
enough of a resale proposition that
protects the lender. I think the biggest
question people have about this deal is
the resale value of chips, the
depreciation, because you can have a
plane that last 30, 40, 50 years. Maybe
you don't want to fly on them, but they
do to
The chips do depreciate rather quickly,
so they might lose their resale value,
which kind of breaks the whole thing.
But, Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang thinks
that's not a big deal. Fans of the
Buffalo Bills have dealt with a lot of
misery over the years, but this latest
offense is certainly the most expensive.
When the team opened up its $2.2 billion
stadium to fans, many found that their
seats were obstructed by a railing. Over
the weekend, nearly 52,000 fans piled
into the new Highmark Stadium for the
team's practice. And while much of the
venue's design did earn high marks,
hundreds in the Bills Mafia reported
they were blocked out of seeing the
entire field because of railings. Images
of the obstructed views went viral on
social media, with many noting that not
only did the stadium cost $2.2 billion,
but was also funded with $850 million of
taxpayer money. The Bills seem to read
the room. In a statement, they said, "We
are currently addressing internal and
external feedback regarding the
facility's operation following the first
event. We'll utilize the next 6 weeks to
refine any details as we prepare for the
home opener on Thursday, September
17th."
First of all, football fans are crazy
cuz what do you mean 50,000 fans showed
up to see a practice in a stadium, not a
game? Secondly, Bills are definitely in
damage control mode at this point. They
said they had only heard from less than
1% of season ticket holders. And I also
do actually ascribe to the fact that
they said that the shots that you were
seeing on social media were not
indicative of the seats themselves
because you can angle your phone in a
way that does make something seem more
obstructed than it is. That being said,
I have been to a sporting event with an
obstructed view at actually Everton's
old stadium. It was like my first
Premier League game ever. I sit down. I
am just behind a pole, but eventually
you just kind of get used to it. It's
kind of it reminded me of the halo in um
in Formula 1. You know, there's a big
thing in front of drivers. You're like,
"How can you see?" Eventually, you kind
of forget it's there. This might be me
coping a little bit and
Bills uh stadium personnel feel free to
steal this, but I really do think that
eventually you can get around any
obstructions that are in your way.
I think when you're taking 850 million
dollars from taxpayers, you don't want
to you don't want to crane your neck to
see it. Clearly you've never been to a
baseball game at Fenway Park because I
grew up going to those and there are so
many seats where [clears throat] you're
either facing the outfield or you're
behind a pole. So it's not exactly the
most but that was built in 1912.
And it's wasn't a bad experience for
for far less than 2.2 billion dollars.
It's not the best experience. I would
like to see the the stadium. But what is
cool about the Bills stadium and and all
people liked a lot of other parts of it
was that they built a folding table into
the stadium. Did you see this? Because
Bills mafia is known for their tailgates
jumping on top of stadiums and break of
tables and breaking them in half. So
they put it literally into the stadium
and I think that's a great use of
taxpayer money. Finally, this is just
too good. A 580 million dollar power
cable project linking the UK and Ireland
has been forced to change its route
after complaints it would have
desecrated the grave of Dobby the house
elf in Harry Potter. Speaking on a
podcast, Simon Ludlam the CEO of the
energy company behind the project said
that he received hundreds of calls from
distraught Harry Potter fans once they
learned the cable was planned to sit
underneath the beach in Wales where
Dobby is buried. Ludlam remarked,
"Apparently we're going to go straight
through Dobby's grave. I said, "Dobby,
who's Dobby?" For those familiar with
Dobby, you know, he was laid to rest on
Freshwater West Beach in Pembrokeshire,
Wales in the Deathly Hallows Part 1.
While he is not actually there in real
life, fans have left a memorial of
stones on the beach which they did not
want disturbed by electrical wiring. The
CEO said after hearing the Dobby fans
out, they switched the route. He noted a
lot of people were very happy about that
and the project is is going ahead and
Dobby's happy. I cannot believe they
moved this thing. Not only do they move
this thing to avoid Dobby's grave, but
Ludlam said that actually we went quite
close to some real Bronze Age remains,
but we avoided Dobby's grave. So, they
literally opted to get closer to human
remains than to Dobby's fictional
remains that don't even exist. So,
You watch your tongue.
Just a very funny story overall and I'm
glad I guess everyone is happy because
more people care about Dobby than
whatever happened in the Bronze Age.
uh some data center opposition people
should take a page from this and just
say, "Hey, you're about to build this
data center on some hallowed land
because my favorite fictional character
is buried there." Uh kind of worked for
this this particular uh power project in
the UK. It could work here, too. That is
all the time we have. Thanks for
starting your morning with us. Have a
wonderful Tuesday. There are just a few
spots left for our trivia night tonight
in Manhattan. So, if you don't have
plans after work, want to meet us and
have an awesome time for free answering
some questions, head to the link in the
show notes to reserve your place. To
share your thoughts on the episode or
[music] anything else, send an email to
morningbrewdaily@morningbrew.com
or DM us on Instagram @mbdailyshow.
Let's roll the credits. Emily Mellor is
our supervising producer. Raymond Lu is
our senior producer. Our producer is
Olivia Graham and our associate producer
is Olivia Lake. Technical direction by
Nina Miller. Hair and makeup is a free
elf. Devin Emery is our president and
our show is a production of Morning
Brew.
Great show, Daniel. Let's run it back
tomorrow.