How Flock cameras work and why they raise privacy concerns

STOPPED COMMERCIAL FLIGHTS NEARBY. OFFICIALS SAY THE INCIDENT DIDN’T AMOUNT TO ANY NEARBY. OFFICIALS SAY THE INCIDENT DIDN’T AMOUNT TO ANY SERIOUS CLOSE CALL. INCIDENT DIDN’T AMOUNT TO ANY SERIOUS CLOSE CALL. OKAY, SO THERE HAS BEEN A SERIOUS CLOSE CALL. OKAY, SO THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS OKAY, SO THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS RECENTLY, WITH MORE PEOPLE LOT OF TALK ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS RECENTLY, WITH MORE PEOPLE ONLINE SPECULATING THAT THEY’RE RECENTLY, WITH MORE PEOPLE ONLINE SPECULATING THAT THEY’RE BEING USED TO INVADE PRIVACY ONLINE SPECULATING THAT THEY’RE BEING USED TO INVADE PRIVACY RATHER THAN KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE. BEING USED TO INVADE PRIVACY RATHER THAN KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE. OFFICIALS AND LAW RATHER THAN KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE. OFFICIALS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT SAY THAT’S NOT THE OFFICIALS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT SAY THAT’S NOT THE CASE, THAT THEY USE FLOCK ENFORCEMENT SAY THAT’S NOT THE CASE, THAT THEY USE FLOCK CAMERAS TO SOLVE CRIMES, BUT CASE, THAT THEY USE FLOCK CAMERAS TO SOLVE CRIMES, BUT THERE’S STILL A LEVEL OF CAMERAS TO SOLVE CRIMES, BUT THERE’S STILL A LEVEL OF CONCERN IF YOU DON’T KNOW THERE’S STILL A LEVEL OF CONCERN IF YOU DON’T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY ARE USED. SO CONCERN IF YOU DON’T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEY ARE USED. SO LET’S GET SOME CLARITY HERE. WE EXACTLY HOW THEY ARE USED. SO LET’S GET SOME CLARITY HERE. WE ARE LEARNING MORE WITH FORMER LET’S GET SOME CLARITY HERE. WE ARE LEARNING MORE WITH FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT MICHAEL ARE LEARNING MORE WITH FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT MICHAEL BEARDEN TO TALK ABOUT THESE SECRET SERVICE AGENT MICHAEL BEARDEN TO TALK ABOUT THESE FLOCK CAMS. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? BEARDEN TO TALK ABOUT THESE FLOCK CAMS. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? GOOD MORNING. FIRST OF ALL, FLOCK CAMS. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? GOOD MORNING. FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. AS GOOD MORNING. FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR BEING HERE. AS ALWAYS. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THANKS FOR BEING HERE. AS ALWAYS. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO FOLKS? JUST SUM UP WHAT THEY ALWAYS. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO FOLKS? JUST SUM UP WHAT THEY WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY’RE FOLKS? JUST SUM UP WHAT THEY WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY’RE USED FOR? WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY’RE USED FOR? YEAH. SO LET’S. EXPLAIN WHAT USED FOR? YEAH. SO LET’S. EXPLAIN WHAT THEY DO. THEY HAVE A SOFTWARE. YEAH. SO LET’S. EXPLAIN WHAT THEY DO. THEY HAVE A SOFTWARE. THE SOFTWARE IS CALLED ALPR, THEY DO. THEY HAVE A SOFTWARE. THE SOFTWARE IS CALLED ALPR, WHICH IS AUTOMATED LICENSE THE SOFTWARE IS CALLED ALPR, WHICH IS AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION. IT’S WHICH IS AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION. IT’S ANALYTICS. ALL THOSE CAMERAS DO PLATE RECOGNITION. IT’S ANALYTICS. ALL THOSE CAMERAS DO IS THEY RECORD THE LICENSE ANALYTICS. ALL THOSE CAMERAS DO IS THEY RECORD THE LICENSE PLATE NUMBER, THE MAKE AND IS THEY RECORD THE LICENSE PLATE NUMBER, THE MAKE AND MODEL AND COLOR OF THE CAR. PLATE NUMBER, THE MAKE AND MODEL AND COLOR OF THE CAR. THAT’S ALL IT DOES. THERE’S A MODEL AND COLOR OF THE CAR. THAT’S ALL IT DOES. THERE’S A MISPERCEPTION OUT THERE. THAT’S ALL IT DOES. THERE’S A MISPERCEPTION OUT THERE. THERE’S NO PERSONAL DATA MISPERCEPTION OUT THERE. THERE’S NO PERSONAL DATA ACQUIRED BY THESE CAMERAS. THERE’S NO PERSONAL DATA ACQUIRED BY THESE CAMERAS. THERE’S NO FACIAL RECOGNITION ACQUIRED BY THESE CAMERAS. THERE’S NO FACIAL RECOGNITION SOFTWARE. THERE’S NO PERSONAL THERE’S NO FACIAL RECOGNITION SOFTWARE. THERE’S NO PERSONAL IDENTIFIERS. THERE’S NO VIDEO SOFTWARE. THERE’S NO PERSONAL IDENTIFIERS. THERE’S NO VIDEO IMAGES OF THE DRIVER. SO JUST IDENTIFIERS. THERE’S NO VIDEO IMAGES OF THE DRIVER. SO JUST TO CLEAR THAT UP, IT’S JUST IMAGES OF THE DRIVER. SO JUST TO CLEAR THAT UP, IT’S JUST VEHICLE INFORMATION. TO CLEAR THAT UP, IT’S JUST VEHICLE INFORMATION. SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS VEHICLE INFORMATION. SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS THAT SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS THAT VEHICLE INFORMATION. DO WE KNOW AFTER LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS THAT VEHICLE INFORMATION. DO WE KNOW HOW THEY USE THAT. VEHICLE INFORMATION. DO WE KNOW HOW THEY USE THAT. CORRECT. AND THAT’S WHERE HOW THEY USE THAT. CORRECT. AND THAT’S WHERE THERE’S BEEN CASES THAT HAVE CORRECT. AND THAT’S WHERE THERE’S BEEN CASES THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED COURT CASES OF THERE’S BEEN CASES THAT HAVE BEEN REPORTED COURT CASES OF MISUSE. SO WITH THAT BEEN REPORTED COURT CASES OF MISUSE. SO WITH THAT INFORMATION THEY ARE CONNECTED MISUSE. SO WITH THAT INFORMATION THEY ARE CONNECTED TO CRIMINAL DATABASES. ONE IS INFORMATION THEY ARE CONNECTED TO CRIMINAL DATABASES. ONE IS NCIC, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL TO CRIMINAL DATABASES. ONE IS NCIC, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL CRIMINAL INFORMATION CENTER. SO NCIC, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL CRIMINAL INFORMATION CENTER. SO NATIONAL CRIME DATA ALSO IN CRIMINAL INFORMATION CENTER. SO NATIONAL CRIME DATA ALSO IN ILLINOIS, LEADS THE LAW NATIONAL CRIME DATA ALSO IN ILLINOIS, LEADS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DATA ILLINOIS, LEADS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DATA SYSTEM. SO YOU GET THAT PLATE, ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DATA SYSTEM. SO YOU GET THAT PLATE, YOU PUT IT THROUGH THOSE SYSTEM. SO YOU GET THAT PLATE, YOU PUT IT THROUGH THOSE DATABASES. IT COULD BE A STOLEN YOU PUT IT THROUGH THOSE DATABASES. IT COULD BE A STOLEN VEHICLE. IT COULD BE AN AMBER DATABASES. IT COULD BE A STOLEN VEHICLE. IT COULD BE AN AMBER ALERT, IT COULD BE A MISSING VEHICLE. IT COULD BE AN AMBER ALERT, IT COULD BE A MISSING PERSON, OR IT COULD BE A ALERT, IT COULD BE A MISSING PERSON, OR IT COULD BE A VEHICLE WOUNDED IN A CRIME. SO PERSON, OR IT COULD BE A VEHICLE WOUNDED IN A CRIME. SO IT’S A TREMENDOUS LAW VEHICLE WOUNDED IN A CRIME. SO IT’S A TREMENDOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOL WHEN USED IT’S A TREMENDOUS LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOL WHEN USED APPROPRIATELY. ENFORCEMENT TOOL WHEN USED APPROPRIATELY. OKAY. AND WE’VE BEEN APPROPRIATELY. OKAY. AND WE’VE BEEN REPORTING OF LATE THAT, YOU OKAY. AND WE’VE BEEN REPORTING OF LATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE’S THIS MOVEMENT REPORTING OF LATE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE’S THIS MOVEMENT KIND OF AN UNDERGROUND MOVEMENT, KNOW, THERE’S THIS MOVEMENT KIND OF AN UNDERGROUND MOVEMENT, VIGILANTE STUFF, WHERE WHERE KIND OF AN UNDERGROUND MOVEMENT, VIGILANTE STUFF, WHERE WHERE FOLKS ARE GOING AROUND AND VIGILANTE STUFF, WHERE WHERE FOLKS ARE GOING AROUND AND THEY’RE TAKING THESE CAMERAS FOLKS ARE GOING AROUND AND THEY’RE TAKING THESE CAMERAS DOWN. THEY’RE VANDALIZING THEM, THEY’RE TAKING THESE CAMERAS DOWN. THEY’RE VANDALIZING THEM, COVERING THEM UP. I UNDERSTAND DOWN. THEY’RE VANDALIZING THEM, COVERING THEM UP. I UNDERSTAND YOU RECENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION COVERING THEM UP. I UNDERSTAND YOU RECENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE LAKE FOREST PD ABOUT YOU RECENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE LAKE FOREST PD ABOUT THESE. ARE THEY EXPERIENCING WITH THE LAKE FOREST PD ABOUT THESE. ARE THEY EXPERIENCING THAT AND WHAT ARE THEY TELLING THESE. ARE THEY EXPERIENCING THAT AND WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU ABOUT THESE? THAT AND WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU ABOUT THESE? THEY HAVEN’T EXPERIENCED THE YOU ABOUT THESE? THEY HAVEN’T EXPERIENCED THE VANDALISM, BUT THEY’RE THEY HAVEN’T EXPERIENCED THE VANDALISM, BUT THEY’RE ADVOCATES OF THIS OF THIS VANDALISM, BUT THEY’RE ADVOCATES OF THIS OF THIS SOFTWARE. SO LIKE THE HOA’S ADVOCATES OF THIS OF THIS SOFTWARE. SO LIKE THE HOA’S HAVE USED THESE CAMERAS. NOW, SOFTWARE. SO LIKE THE HOA’S HAVE USED THESE CAMERAS. NOW, HERE’S THE THING TOO, IS IT’S HAVE USED THESE CAMERAS. NOW, HERE’S THE THING TOO, IS IT’S YOUR PREROGATIVE TO SHARE THIS HERE’S THE THING TOO, IS IT’S YOUR PREROGATIVE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION. YOU DON’T HAVE TO YOUR PREROGATIVE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION. YOU DON’T HAVE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH LAW INFORMATION. YOU DON’T HAVE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. I THINK WHERE LAW SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. I THINK WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO KIND OF ENFORCEMENT. I THINK WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO KIND OF TIGHTEN UP IS IF YOU’RE A ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO KIND OF TIGHTEN UP IS IF YOU’RE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WOULD ONLY TIGHTEN UP IS IF YOU’RE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WOULD ONLY HAVE A SELECT FEW PEOPLE HAVE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WOULD ONLY HAVE A SELECT FEW PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATA BECAUSE HAVE A SELECT FEW PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DATA BECAUSE BACK TO THAT MISUSE OF IT, ACCESS TO THAT DATA BECAUSE BACK TO THAT MISUSE OF IT, THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER WHO BACK TO THAT MISUSE OF IT, THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER WHO RAN LICENSE PLATE 600 TIMES FOR THERE WAS A POLICE OFFICER WHO RAN LICENSE PLATE 600 TIMES FOR PERSONAL REASONS. NOW, IF RAN LICENSE PLATE 600 TIMES FOR PERSONAL REASONS. NOW, IF YOU’RE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU PERSONAL REASONS. NOW, IF YOU’RE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN AUDIT TRAIL, A YOU’RE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN AUDIT TRAIL, A DIGITAL PAPER TRAIL, WHO LOGGED SHOULD HAVE AN AUDIT TRAIL, A DIGITAL PAPER TRAIL, WHO LOGGED INTO THE SYSTEM AND FOR WHAT DIGITAL PAPER TRAIL, WHO LOGGED INTO THE SYSTEM AND FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I USED TO DO THIS AS A INTO THE SYSTEM AND FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I USED TO DO THIS AS A FEDERAL AGENT. I’D HAVE TO HAVE PURPOSE? I USED TO DO THIS AS A FEDERAL AGENT. I’D HAVE TO HAVE AN OPEN CASE NUMBER TO GAIN FEDERAL AGENT. I’D HAVE TO HAVE AN OPEN CASE NUMBER TO GAIN ACCESS. NOT SO YOU CAN’T DO IT AN OPEN CASE NUMBER TO GAIN ACCESS. NOT SO YOU CAN’T DO IT FOR PERSONAL PURPOSE. ACCESS. NOT SO YOU CAN’T DO IT FOR PERSONAL PURPOSE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO, I FOR PERSONAL PURPOSE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO, I MEAN, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO, I MEAN, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE KIND OF HAVING THAT MEAN, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT PEOPLE KIND OF HAVING THAT SUSPICION ABOUT IT. WHY DO YOU PEOPLE KIND OF HAVING THAT SUSPICION ABOUT IT. WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE MORE SUSPICIONS SUSPICION ABOUT IT. WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE MORE SUSPICIONS ABOUT THESE FLOCK CAMERAS, THINK THERE ARE MORE SUSPICIONS ABOUT THESE FLOCK CAMERAS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU’RE SAYING ABOUT THESE FLOCK CAMERAS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU’RE SAYING LIKE, HEY, LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU’RE SAYING LIKE, HEY, LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN BENEFIT FROM THESE AND LIKE, HEY, LIKE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN BENEFIT FROM THESE AND THERE CAN BE BENEFITS TO OUR CAN BENEFIT FROM THESE AND THERE CAN BE BENEFITS TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. THERE CAN BE BENEFITS TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. YEAH. AND IT GOES BACK TO, PUBLIC SAFETY. YEAH. AND IT GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, KNOWING INFORMATION YEAH. AND IT GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, KNOWING INFORMATION ABOUT LIKE WHAT I JUST SAID YOU KNOW, KNOWING INFORMATION ABOUT LIKE WHAT I JUST SAID ABOUT YOU CLEAR UP THE ABOUT LIKE WHAT I JUST SAID ABOUT YOU CLEAR UP THE MISPERCEPTION, BUT ALSO WHEN ABOUT YOU CLEAR UP THE MISPERCEPTION, BUT ALSO WHEN IT’S ABUSED, THAT REALLY MISPERCEPTION, BUT ALSO WHEN IT’S ABUSED, THAT REALLY MUDDIES THE WATER. ALSO, IT’S ABUSED, THAT REALLY MUDDIES THE WATER. ALSO, THERE’S BEEN LITIGATION ON MUDDIES THE WATER. ALSO, THERE’S BEEN LITIGATION ON THESE CAMERAS IN STATE AND THERE’S BEEN LITIGATION ON THESE CAMERAS IN STATE AND FEDERAL COURT. THERE’S BEEN 30 THESE CAMERAS IN STATE AND FEDERAL COURT. THERE’S BEEN 30 COURT CASES AND THEY’VE BEEN FEDERAL COURT. THERE’S BEEN 30 COURT CASES AND THEY’VE BEEN SUED FOR TWO THINGS FOURTH COURT CASES AND THEY’VE BEEN SUED FOR TWO THINGS FOURTH AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS AND CIVIL SUED FOR TWO THINGS FOURTH AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES AND ALL 30 CASES. THE AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS AND CIVIL LIBERTIES AND ALL 30 CASES. THE COURT RULED IN FAVOR OF THE LIBERTIES AND ALL 30 CASES. THE COURT RULED IN FAVOR OF THE CAMERAS. SO THEY’VE NEVER COURT RULED IN FAVOR OF THE CAMERAS. SO THEY’VE NEVER VIOLATED A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. CAMERAS. SO THEY’VE NEVER VIOLATED A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. WOW. OKAY. DO YOU FEEL LIKE VIOLATED A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. WOW. OKAY. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A MESSAGING WOW. OKAY. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A MESSAGING PROBLEM HERE? IS THERE ANYTHING THERE MIGHT BE A MESSAGING PROBLEM HERE? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND IN TERMS PROBLEM HERE? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND IN TERMS OF WHAT FLOCK COULD DO AS A THAT YOU HAVE IN MIND IN TERMS OF WHAT FLOCK COULD DO AS A COMPANY TO EITHER PROTECT OF WHAT FLOCK COULD DO AS A COMPANY TO EITHER PROTECT PEOPLE’S PRIVACY OR, OR ITERATE COMPANY TO EITHER PROTECT PEOPLE’S PRIVACY OR, OR ITERATE OR STRESS TO THE, TO FOLKS OUT PEOPLE’S PRIVACY OR, OR ITERATE OR STRESS TO THE, TO FOLKS OUT THERE WHO ARE CONCERNED THAT OR STRESS TO THE, TO FOLKS OUT THERE WHO ARE CONCERNED THAT THEIR PRIVACY IS BEING THERE WHO ARE CONCERNED THAT THEIR PRIVACY IS BEING PROTECTED. THEIR PRIVACY IS BEING PROTECTED. I HAVE TWO ANSWERS TO THAT PROTECTED. I HAVE TWO ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION. AND YOU’RE RIGHT. IF I HAVE TWO ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION. AND YOU’RE RIGHT. IF YOU GO TO THE FLOCK WEBSITE, QUESTION. AND YOU’RE RIGHT. IF YOU GO TO THE FLOCK WEBSITE, THEY DO A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING YOU GO TO THE FLOCK WEBSITE, THEY DO A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING EVERYTHING. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THEY DO A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING EVERYTHING. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE VIDEO INTERVIEWS. THAT’S PRETTY EVERYTHING. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE VIDEO INTERVIEWS. THAT’S PRETTY GOOD. I WOULD RECOMMEND GOING VIDEO INTERVIEWS. THAT’S PRETTY GOOD. I WOULD RECOMMEND GOING TO THE FLOCK SAFETY.COM WEBSITE. GOOD. I WOULD RECOMMEND GOING TO THE FLOCK SAFETY.COM WEBSITE. BUT BACK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, TO THE FLOCK SAFETY.COM WEBSITE. BUT BACK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY SHOULD HAVE A PUBLIC BUT BACK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEY SHOULD HAVE A PUBLIC FACING WEBSITE SAYING, WE GOT THEY SHOULD HAVE A PUBLIC FACING WEBSITE SAYING, WE GOT THESE MANY CAMERAS. HERE’S THE FACING WEBSITE SAYING, WE GOT THESE MANY CAMERAS. HERE’S THE INFORMATION WE HAVE. ALSO, THESE MANY CAMERAS. HERE’S THE INFORMATION WE HAVE. ALSO, AFTER 30 DAYS, THAT DATA IS INFORMATION WE HAVE. ALSO, AFTER 30 DAYS, THAT DATA IS DELETED. AND THAT’S ANOTHER AFTER 30 DAYS, THAT DATA IS DELETED. AND THAT’S ANOTHER MISPERCEPTION THAT’S NOT HELD DELETED. AND THAT’S ANOTHER MISPERCEPTION THAT’S NOT HELD ON TO. SO POLICE NEEDS TO BE MISPERCEPTION THAT’S NOT HELD ON TO. SO POLICE NEEDS TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT, BACK TO BACK ON TO. SO POLICE NEEDS TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT, BACK TO BACK TO THEIR WEBSITES TO LET THEM MORE TRANSPARENT, BACK TO BACK TO THEIR WEBSITES TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING WITH TO THEIR WEBSITES TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING WITH THAT DATA. KNOW WHAT THEY’RE DOING WITH THAT DATA. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. THAT DATA. THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, SO IT THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, SO IT DOES SOUND LIKE THAT THERE YEAH, YEAH. I MEAN, SO IT DOES SOUND LIKE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE COMMUNICATION DOES SOUND LIKE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN NEEDS TO BE MORE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE DON’T KNOW THINGS, THAT’S BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE DON’T KNOW THINGS, THAT’S WHEN SORT OF THE RUMORS START WE DON’T KNOW THINGS, THAT’S WHEN SORT OF THE RUMORS START AND THOSE START TO CIRCULATE. WHEN SORT OF THE RUMORS START AND THOSE START TO CIRCULATE. SURE. AND, AND NOTHING IN AND THOSE START TO CIRCULATE. SURE. AND, AND NOTHING IN THEIR LITERATURE OR NOTHING, SURE. AND, AND NOTHING IN THEIR LITERATURE OR NOTHING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THIS SOFTWARE, THEIR LITERATURE OR NOTHING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THIS SOFTWARE, FACIAL RECOGNITION, NOT A PART YOU KNOW, ABOUT THIS SOFTWARE, FACIAL RECOGNITION, NOT A PART OF THIS PACKAGE WHATSOEVER. FACIAL RECOGNITION, NOT A PART OF THIS PACKAGE WHATSOEVER. AND WHERE IT GETS CONFUSING OF THIS PACKAGE WHATSOEVER. AND WHERE IT GETS CONFUSING IS THIS LPR IS VIDEO ANALYTICS AND WHERE IT GETS CONFUSING IS THIS LPR IS VIDEO ANALYTICS AND FACIAL RECOGNITION IS VIDEO IS THIS LPR IS VIDEO ANALYTICS AND FACIAL RECOGNITION IS VIDEO ANALYTICS, BUT IT’S THESE TWO AND FACIAL RECOGNITION IS VIDEO ANALYTICS, BUT IT’S THESE TWO SOFTWARES ARE DIFFERENT, OKAY. ANALYTICS, BUT IT’S THESE TWO SOFTWARES ARE DIFFERENT, OKAY. AND WHEN PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT SOFTWARES ARE DIFFERENT, OKAY. AND WHEN PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT ANALYTICS, THEY’RE THINKING AND WHEN PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT ANALYTICS, THEY’RE THINKING LIKE EVERYTHING, THEY’RE ANALYTICS, THEY’RE THINKING LIKE EVERYTHING, THEY’RE GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION LIKE EVERYTHING, THEY’RE GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION AND THAT’S NOT THE CASE. IT’S GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION AND THAT’S NOT THE CASE. IT’S BACK TO MESSAGING. IT IS BACK. AND THAT’S NOT THE CASE. IT’S BACK TO MESSAGING. IT IS BACK. I’M GOING TO BE REDUNDANT. IT’S BACK TO MESSAGING. IT IS BACK. I’M GOING TO BE REDUNDANT. IT’S JUST VEHICLE CHARACTERISTICS. I’M GOING TO BE REDUNDANT. IT’S JUST VEHICLE CHARACTERISTICS. THAT’S IT. NOTHING MORE THAN JUST VEHICLE CHARACTERISTICS. THAT’S IT. NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. THAT’S IT. NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. I’M CURIOUS. YOU FOLKS ARE THAT. I’M CURIOUS. YOU FOLKS ARE RIGHT NOW ZEROING IN ON FLOCK I’M CURIOUS. YOU FOLKS ARE RIGHT NOW ZEROING IN ON FLOCK CAMERAS. LIKE THAT’S LIKE THE RIGHT NOW ZEROING IN ON FLOCK CAMERAS. LIKE THAT’S LIKE THE STORY, BUT LIKE IN PUBLIC, I CAMERAS. LIKE THAT’S LIKE THE STORY, BUT LIKE IN PUBLIC, I MEAN, WE HAVE RING CAMS, WE STORY, BUT LIKE IN PUBLIC, I MEAN, WE HAVE RING CAMS, WE HAVE BUILDING CAM. YOU KNOW, IF MEAN, WE HAVE RING CAMS, WE HAVE BUILDING CAM. YOU KNOW, IF YOU’RE WALKING DOWN WABASH HAVE BUILDING CAM. YOU KNOW, IF YOU’RE WALKING DOWN WABASH RIGHT HERE ON OUR PHONES, LIKE, YOU’RE WALKING DOWN WABASH RIGHT HERE ON OUR PHONES, LIKE, ARE WE, WE’RE ON CAMERA ALL THE RIGHT HERE ON OUR PHONES, LIKE, ARE WE, WE’RE ON CAMERA ALL THE TIME. RIGHT? AND THIS IS, THIS ARE WE, WE’RE ON CAMERA ALL THE TIME. RIGHT? AND THIS IS, THIS IS DATA THAT’S BEING STORED ON TIME. RIGHT? AND THIS IS, THIS IS DATA THAT’S BEING STORED ON US IN PUBLIC ALL THE TIME. IS DATA THAT’S BEING STORED ON US IN PUBLIC ALL THE TIME. CORRECT. US IN PUBLIC ALL THE TIME. CORRECT. YEAH. AND BUT ANOTHER CORRECT. YEAH. AND BUT ANOTHER BECAUSE I’M ON THE LAW YEAH. AND BUT ANOTHER BECAUSE I’M ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THIS, BUT BECAUSE I’M ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THIS, BUT I’M TRYING TO BE BALANCED ABOUT ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THIS, BUT I’M TRYING TO BE BALANCED ABOUT IT. BUT ANOTHER STATISTIC IS I’M TRYING TO BE BALANCED ABOUT IT. BUT ANOTHER STATISTIC IS 70% OF CRIMES INVOLVE A VEHICLE. IT. BUT ANOTHER STATISTIC IS 70% OF CRIMES INVOLVE A VEHICLE. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, LAW 70% OF CRIMES INVOLVE A VEHICLE. AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR SOCIETY AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY, THEY’VE HAD BUDGET ENFORCEMENT IN OUR SOCIETY TODAY, THEY’VE HAD BUDGET CUTBACKS, THEY’VE HAD ATTRITION, TODAY, THEY’VE HAD BUDGET CUTBACKS, THEY’VE HAD ATTRITION, THEIR STAFFING IS DOWN. AND CUTBACKS, THEY’VE HAD ATTRITION, THEIR STAFFING IS DOWN. AND THIS TECHNOLOGY IS A FORCE THEIR STAFFING IS DOWN. AND THIS TECHNOLOGY IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER IN POLICE CIRCLES. THIS TECHNOLOGY IS A FORCE MULTIPLIER IN POLICE CIRCLES. IT HELPS THEM SOLVE CRIMES. MULTIPLIER IN POLICE CIRCLES. IT HELPS THEM SOLVE CRIMES. BACK TO THOSE AMBER ALERTS. SO IT HELPS THEM SOLVE CRIMES. BACK TO THOSE AMBER ALERTS. SO IT’S A TREMENDOUS TOOL WHEN BACK TO THOSE AMBER ALERTS. SO IT’S A TREMENDOUS TOOL WHEN USED APPROPRIATELY. SO YOU KNOW IT’S A TREMENDOUS TOOL WHEN USED APPROPRIATELY. SO YOU KNOW I SEE THAT SIDE OF IT. I DO SEE USED APPROPRIATELY. SO YOU KNOW I SEE THAT SIDE OF IT. I DO SEE THE OTHER SIDE. I SEE THE I SEE THAT SIDE OF IT. I DO SEE THE OTHER SIDE. I SEE THE CONCERN OVER CIVIL LIBERTIES. THE OTHER SIDE. I SEE THE CONCERN OVER CIVIL LIBERTIES. AND IT’S BACK TO THEY HAVE TO CONCERN OVER CIVIL LIBERTIES. AND IT’S BACK TO THEY HAVE TO REALLY TIGHTEN UP THE USAGE OF AND IT’S BACK TO THEY HAVE TO REALLY TIGHTEN UP THE USAGE OF THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT REALLY TIGHTEN UP THE USAGE OF THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS REALLY HAVE TO, THESE LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENTS REALLY HAVE TO, LIKE I SAID, THEY SHOULD REALLY DEPARTMENTS REALLY HAVE TO, LIKE I SAID, THEY SHOULD REALLY LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO LIKE I SAID, THEY SHOULD REALLY LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN USE THIS DATA. LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN USE THIS DATA. YEAH. MICHAEL, THANK YOU FOR CAN USE THIS DATA. YEAH. MICHAEL, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. YEAH, WE