Full transcript
You may remember me from this video
where I told you about 40,000 of these
things that your tax dollars pay for
that are tracking your every move and
repurposing data collected about you
every time that you drive past them.
Upon further investigation, it turns out
that there are over 80,000 of them. And
um we got some and we hacked them. You
can press a button a few times on the
back of these cameras and within a few
minutes turn them into your own personal
spy device or malware host or honeypot
that steals people's login credentials
or a cryptocurrency minor. Whatever you
want really. Or alternatively, how you
can point an antenna at them and decode
the video stream using a technique used
by the CIA during the Cold War. Or how
another researcher found a Google search
phrase that had the capabilities of
showing you the real-time location of
these cameras and police patrol cars.
This isn't clickbait or an exaggerated
claim with no payoff. Just the other
day, weeks before this video will be
released, [music] US senators and
representatives drafted an official
letter to open an investigation that
highlights the national [music] security
risks associated with our findings. And
in this video, I'm going to show you
exactly how they work and even
demonstrate them to journalists.
No [ __ ] way.
And finally, we're going to take a deep
data dive into the efficacy,
misinformation, and straightup lies
surrounding some private surveillance
startups. And we're going to use that
momentum to push for protocols and
legislation that actually makes you
safer. Wow, that's a lot for a YouTube
video.
I can never act. Been trying to stack up
racks on racks. Boys in the about
wearing all black stain on track [music]
and that's on me. Out here getting this
be if you work for the devil. Better
retreat.
The meat and potatoes of this video will
be mostly in parody with John Gainex
white paper and that's linked in the
description below. Many of these
vulnerabilities were recently published
with the National Vulnerability [music]
Database or are in the process of
publication. And to prevent the average
viewer from getting lost or falling
asleep, I'm going to keep many of the
formalities and extensive details
[music] to a minimum. But if you find
yourself wanting more details at any
time in this video, just check the
description for a whole bunch of links.
Welcome to the world of responsible
disclosure. And while I'm up here, let
me tell you that to the best of my
knowledge, any of the cameras or
hardware seen in this video were
acquired legally. I have not shared or
redistributed any of the data on them,
and as long as they are in my
possession, they will not be placed into
the wild. At no point in time have I
knowingly [music] accessed or interfered
with any server or service related to or
owned by Flock Safety. There is a chance
that all the devices that you see in
this video, or all of the devices that
we have acquired from multiple different
sources, are unique and do not have the
same hardware or software that the
devices in the wild have. I have no idea
how or why that would be the case, but
it is technically a possibility. And
finally, at the time of me recording
this, there are 47 security issues
covered with the vast majority listed in
the white paper. In this video, I'm
going to be showing [music] you six of
them. Over the last summer, when doing
research for my first video on this
topic, I started poking around to see if
anyone had done an independent audit of
flock safety or related services.
[music] This naturally led me to the
dark web where I have access to some
semi-private communities dedicated to
[music] hacking and open- source
intelligence. Some of these communities
have wellorganized marketplaces for
breached data, credentials, exploits,
and all that stuff. [music]
And that is where I found this. Please
excuse the poor English translation, but
these were law enforcement flock [music]
safety accounts for sale with escrow
protection by a reputable vendor. And a
few days later, the listings were
removed in a way that suggested that
someone had bought them. Not long after
that, I got in touch with a professional
security researcher regarding other
things on this list. And what do you
know? He found something very similar on
the dark web.
So, in the cyber industry, there [music]
are things called access brokers. And
some people specialize in government
agencies or maybe local law enforcement.
I started digging more to find out where
these accounts could have come from.
Were they bought or stolen off of a
police officer or a flock employee? Or
just maybe Flock Safety had some
security vulnerabilities.
The most significant and troublesome and
mind-boggling vulnerability on this list
was discovered nearly a year ago, late
2024, that stumbled down a rabbit hole.
Uh, and then probably a few nights
later, was messing with the buttons and
the dip switch and then was [music] able
to figure out how to get uh a shell on
it. Yeah. So, I'm uh John Gaines Gains.
Professionally, I've been in the
offensive security field for over a
decade. Obtaining shell on a device
means that you can remote control it,
exfiltrate data, and escalate
privileges, which is exactly what John
did. As detailed on John's blog and
formerly published paper, John had found
a user named Cager on social media who
was trying to recreate some of the
disclosures, he reported that by merely
pressing the button on a device in a
particular sequence on a flock [music]
safety camera, a wireless access point
is created. Hey partner, don't do any of
this stuff unless you can legally
acquire a Flock safety camera. If you do
this to one of the 80,000 all over the
US of A, you'll be put in the clink.
First thing you're going to want to do
is go ahead and press the button to turn
on that police [music] camera. Then
press the button on the back a number of
times I can't disclose in this video.
There she is, the Flock wireless access
point. Go on and connect. [music] Send a
command to enable ADB. Connect. And now
[music] you can connect to the Flock
safety device and access its data or
install whatever the hell you want on
it. Have fun.
This along with John's previous
discoveries are encapsulated in an easy
to use tool that he made so even a
novice user could obtain full control of
the cameras. We let George Chey from the
Guardian do the honors.
The longest part actually is waiting for
the hotspot to turn to turn on. Um but
realistically in about 5 seconds. And in
fact with the compute box uh you don't
need to hit the buttons [music] uh
because the USBC ports are exposed. So
you can just plug in a rubber ducky and
then walk away. A rubber ducky,
sometimes referred to as [music] a bad
USB, is a USB drive that a computer or
device detects as a USB keyboard and
then execute scripts called payloads.
[music] One can make a device like this
for as little as $5. This quite
literally raises the limit of how one
could use flock safety devices to their
imagination. You can clone or decompile
the apps. You could send the video
stream data to a remote server. You
could use it as a botnet client for
malware. You could have it capture Wi-Fi
handshake credentials and do middleman
or honeypot attacks or replace or modify
captured footage or images. And if that
is the case, this could bring into
question the integrity of the data
[music] being used as admissible
evidence in court like in general unless
of course a [music] prosecutor could
prove that a security breach wasn't
detected. And uh about that
the apps that are installed that are uh
custom of the vendor uh all have debug
enabled which [music] on these types of
devices on Android devices means that
you can pause them in runtime and modify
the memory right um which gives you
system uh injection system can write
properties [music]
um and in this case there's one that you
can modify a cleanup script um that is
ran as root [music] you can consider
either a wireless RC or a gated wireless
rce that goes from no access to [music]
to root which is the worst This means
that malicious code can be installed and
executed outside of the operating
system. [music] So like when you first
turn on a computer and see the BIOS
screen where the system does its little
selfch check, it could exist right there
acting as a [music] superior to Windows
or iOS or whatever it is that you're
booting into.
Multiffactor authentication or
two-factor authentication or two-step
verification is part of our daily lives.
We use it when we log into everything
from Gmail to Tik Tok to our banks and
nearly everything in between. But not
all 2FA is equal, and different types
have their own strengths and weaknesses.
For example, some 2FAS simply pop up on
your phone or your desktop and ask you
if you've just logged in from a certain
device or region in which you can
approve or decline the new device. This
is an excellent security protocol if
you're sitting at home in Kansas and see
that somebody from Bangladesh just used
your password. But if I'm sitting in
your driveway in Kansas, or especially
if I'm using your Wi-Fi using a device
like this, I can clone your Wi-Fi signal
and then send a deauthorization or
deauth signal to your devices's MAC
address. Either you will notice this and
try to reconnect, or your computer or
phone will automatically reconnect. And
[music] now you'd be accessing your own
network through my device. I could use a
script to clone the login page of
whatever credentials I'm trying to get
and then feed it to you, capturing your
session and depending on the service,
your username and password. Then, as
expected, you would get a two-step
[music] verification asking you if you
just logged in, and you would say yes,
granting me access. [music] This means
that when it comes to credentials like
this, even with 2FA or MFA, a police
surveillance company's security can only
be as good as the least security-minded
person with access to that system. If
you're wondering how low this security
bar can go with clients, you'll be
disappointed to know that Flock Safety
doesn't require two-factor [music]
authentication with some police
departments. Yes, you heard that right.
The security process you go through when
you log into Disney Plus is just too
much to ask some police departments to
do [music] when accessing confidential
information and the location of in some
cases virtually everyone. When I first
found this out, I simply couldn't
believe it. [music] And neither could US
Senator Widen's team, which is why it's
among the issues leading to a request
for [music] the FTC to open an
investigation into the company on the
grounds of national security.
Fortunately, there's a super easy
solution to this, a [music] USB or NFC
authenticator. It cost as little as $10
and you just plug it in or wave it in
front of your device for the second
layer of authentication. And if this is
too much hassle for an able-bodied
police officer [music] or employee to
use, then maybe they shouldn't have
access to secure information. It's
really frustrating to spend this much
time talking about a problem when a very
simple and common sense [music] solution
to that problem has existed since day
one.
A concerning amount of hard-coded
information is stored inside Flock
Safety cameras, and we'll hear all about
it in the next vulnerabilities on this
list. But within this information is a
list of Wi-Fi network names. So, I set
up a dummy network with one of these
Wi-Fi names. Then, when removing the SIM
card or when the device couldn't find an
LTE [music] signal, some of our Flock
safety cameras happily connected to the
dummy network and routed upstream
traffic through it. Others seemingly
prioritized my dummy network by default,
regardless of if it had a [music] SIM
card in it or not. So I captured the
pcap data being transmitted from one of
these cameras for a little while and
analyzed it with wire sharkark and unblo
which is an open- source extraction
suite. And sure enough there were clear
text credentials [music] in the data.
These exact vulnerabilities were
originally disclosed by John in April,
another in September and with another
[music] pending. This attack requires
knowing the name or credentials of the
Wi-Fi networks the camera is looking
for. But what concerns me more is that
this information wasn't in an encrypted
upstream to begin with. [music] Which
means that by using a professional-grade
SDR or IMSI catcher, which is more or
less a DIY Stingray device, a malicious
hacker could just hijack the LTE
connection and then do the [music] exact
same thing without needing to know these
network names or even being physically
near the camera. This could also allow a
more modern version of a Tempest attack,
which I'll demonstrate in a few minutes.
And that's where a hacker could decode
the motion JPEG video stream. I actually
tried to accomplish this as I love
puzzles, but unfortunately time forced
me to choose between decoding the pixel
sequence or finishing this video. And
here we are.
When I recreated John's research on
these devices, as previously shown, it
was as clear to me as it was to John
when he first discovered it that they
inadequately protected credentials, API
keys, [music] passwords, and more. As I
mentioned, the Gaintech blog and the
papers have a lot more details on this
for the technically minded, but I'm
going to use this segment to talk about
some of the other troubling things that
were found stored in the camera. On Fox
Safety's website, it is stated that they
do not capture or record data of people,
but only vehicles. They also state that
data and footage is encrypted throughout
the entire life cycle, and that data is
automatically removed from devices after
7 days. Speaking for myself, when I
recreated John's research across
multiple devices, I confirmed exactly
what he was seeing. If Fox Safety's
cameras in the wild are operating like
the ones we researched, this would be a
clear contradiction to their statements.
Firstly, when I moved in front of the
camera, the radar module triggered the
camera module to take a picture of me.
Then the onboard AI looked for a license
plate and didn't find one, but it stored
the image anyway to a separate folder.
Now, this doesn't seem to target people.
It will also take a picture of my hand
if I move in front of the lens or a
picture of my desk if I move the device.
But what I observed were the devices
intentionally saving the footage, not
erasing it. Secondly, throughout the
entire process of verifying John's
research, I didn't crack or decrypt a
single thing, any of the information,
footage, or data that you see or hear
about in this video was unencrypted at
runtime. And finally, when going through
the files and temp folders of the Falcon
cameras, we absolutely found images
older than 7 days. In fact, John found
stored images that were captured when
the camera was triggered inside the
factory where the device was made. So,
hypothetically, this suggests that if
you had a camera deployed and pointed at
your front door, one could access this
data and figure out when you entered or
exited your house.
For about as long as modern search
engines have existed, so is dorking. So,
Googling looks like this, and dorking
looks like this. And if you're really
well verssed in dorking, you'll start
finding things that weren't necessarily
intended to [music] be public. I'm a
pretty solid dorker and I use it
constantly for researching videos like
this one. Josh, however, is a legitimate
[music] expert at dorking.
I'm Joshua Michael. I'm a technology
obsessive [music] and I founded Next AI,
which is a all source intelligence firm
focusing in privacy and [music] personal
cyber security.
This is the exact Google search I used
to find an exposed flock safety demo
site. reveal how their system traces
cars, maps patrol vehicles, and can soon
build full investigation profiles on
people. At first glance, it was a UI
demo site meant to just show off how
cool their buttons look. As I looked
deeper, it contained 5,000 lines of
source code for a search platform, and
buried in the code was a live API key.
And an API stands for application
programming interface, which basically
allows a computer to contact another
computer without having to deal with all
the clunky [music] things like user
interfaces and buttons. The
confidentiality of API keys and tokens
like this are sometimes more important
than things like usernames and passwords
because in many [music] cases the token
alone grants you the same access but
without front-end security measures like
capture or twostep verification. And it
had access to over 50 private layers
that I didn't dare touch because I'm too
handsome for prison. I used open- source
intelligence to see what data is stored
in RGS. Let me show you some of the
things I found the police departments
and flock safety are storing on ArcGIS.
this Flux safety map. It's obviously a
demo, but it shows that they'd store
registration data. So, names, emails,
how many cameras, and a field to attach
files, whatever that may be. Carolton
Police Department. This is no good. The
exposed API key may have granted us
access to track live patrol car
locations. Also on the naughty list is
Aurora, Colorado. Or maybe Flock Safety.
I don't actually know who owns this map.
It's Flock Safety. leaking another RGI
layer with officers names, phone
numbers, emails, and even their expected
patrol areas. This is the worst one
coming out of Dallas, Texas. A map layer
with 6,000 records of hot list alerts
containing license plates, the reasons
why they're on that list, the exact
location detected, the camera that
caught them, and the time that they went
by. Anyone could Google, find this map,
and trace these people's movement
patterns for 5 months. Also going to
note the reason category has someone in
there for just suspect and a bunch of
others literally have no reason in our
blank. So let's back it up for a second.
If you call 911 and the dispatcher deems
it an emergency requiring police, most
modern police cars have a GPS module
installed that reports back [music] to
dispatch. That way they can efficiently
contact the police nearest the event and
expedite the response time. Flock Safety
and many of its clients use thirdparty
services that makes sense [music] of
this constant stream of data and all of
that data is handled with an API. Just a
few weeks ago, two security researchers,
Alexa Feminina and James Zang, [music]
wrote a report discovering that ArcGIS
had been compromised by a Chinese state
sponsored hacking group called Flex
Typhoon. The report from Infocurity
[music] magazine states, "The hackers
allegedly targeted a legitimate public-f
facing ArcGIS [music] application. This
is software that allows organizations to
manage spatial data for disaster
recovery, emergency management, and
other critical functions. This is just a
very recent example of what could be
compromised with sensitive API
information for geospatial platforms.
This is probably in real world scenarios
the least concerning vulnerability in
this video, but one of the most
fascinating ones and very few consumer
or security cameras, displays or network
manufacturers have the means or know how
[music] to test for it. At some level,
this device that you're watching this
video on is leaking nonionizing
electromagnetic radiation. And if the R
word is unsettling, nonionizing means no
DNA damage. Phones leak it, monitors
[music] leak it, microphones leak it,
camera modules leak it, most modern
electronic devices leak it. But some of
these leaking electromagnetic waves are
resonating and modulating in parody
[music] with the signal. And if you can
isolate the resonating frequencies, you
can with a lot of trial and error decode
[music] the signal or in other words spy
on the device. The Tempest attack is
something that the CIA and NSA used and
experimented with ever since World War
II, which is how it got its cool
sounding name. Back when we all used CRT
televisions and monitors, there was
generally a whole lot more RF leakage.
So, [music] it was a much bigger risk to
national security. These days, a
practical Tempest attack would involve
some time finding and decoding the
signal and then placing an RF bug on or
near the source, which could transmit
the data remotely. You need a software
definfined radio with a lot of
bandwidth, RF probes, a directional
antenna, and a [music] spectrum
analyzer. On the newer Flock satellite
cameras, I noticed that there was an
unusual amount of RF leakage coming
[music] from the camera module itself,
the proprietary coaxial port, and the 8
pin DN port on the back. Initially,
using an RF probing kit, an
oscilloscope, a spectrum analyzer, and a
hack RF, I was able to isolate a few
various ranges of modulated signals.
Then I brought the camera into another
room to rule out localized interference
and tested these signals as well as
common integer quotients of those
frequencies. Using an RF probe, I found
an exploitable [music] leak between 592
and 594 MHz. Then using a periodic log
antenna and a 20 decel low-noise
amplifier, I was able to point the RF
[music] gun at the device as far as 6 ft
away and make out what the camera was
capturing. In this case, me. Obviously,
the quality and lack of color leaves a
lot to be desired, but that's just
because the softwaredefined radio I was
using to pick this up just didn't have
the bandwidth for that kind of quality.
If someone were to use a
professional-grade multi-channel [music]
SDR board with higher resolution sample
rates, the quality of the Tempest attack
output [music] can be nearly as good as
its source. But due to the high cost of
equipment and the knowledge and time
required to execute an attack like this,
most consumer device manufacturers and
owners do not [music] need to be super
worried about this. However, if a device
is being used for something related to
national [music] security, government
use, or public surveillance, this
absolutely needs to be protected
against.
This is just my opinion here, but most
of these things are entirely preventable
and the result of prioritizing growth
over painfully obvious industry standard
security measures like multiffactor
authentication. Another really obvious
lowhanging fruit here is using mobile
phone operating systems and hardware for
a government surveillance camera. The
Falcon, the Sparrow, and likely Flex LPR
devices, or the cameras you most
commonly see all over the country, were
running Android Things 8 or 8.1, which
was discontinued in 2021, and that
includes security updates. At this time,
there are over 900 published
vulnerabilities for this OS. like
someone please explain to me why there
are even cameras in the wild recording
public activity that aren't even [music]
running on supported software. If your
phone or your computer or your home
security system stopped being supported
and you understood how bad this could
make your life, you'd probably be
inclined to throw them in the garbage.
The way this is supposed to work is when
you discover a vulnerability, you
attempt to reach out to the company and
you give them a 90-day window to [music]
release a patch. No shout out, reward,
compensation, or bounty is required.
However, after those 90 days pass, the
[music] discoverer can then post a
detailed write-up. Alternatively, some
go the bug bounty route where you report
it and get a monetary or reputational
reward. However, as explained by John
and Josh, this route has commonly
started to include [music]
non-disclosure agreements. This means
that even if the company decides not to
pay a reward, the discoverer [music]
cannot legally disclose the issue
publicly. So, they did offer me a bug
bounty. It wasn't very specific and it
included an NDA pride [music] knowing
anything more. I don't think you're
going to improve cyber security as a
whole through not talking [music] about
it.
Early February, I reached out. Yeah, I
disclosed I I want to say 7 to 12
vulnerabilities maybe [music] for the
the license reader and the the gunshot
detection. They responded within like a
day and a half and immediately asked for
a a video uh chat uh which you know I
obliged you know talking about joint PR
[music] statements and um so on and so
forth. Um, what ended up happening was
they released a PR statement uh about a
month and a half before the 3 months
ended. So pretty fairly [music] quickly
uh without telling me, without
referencing me or referencing the issues
that I that I ended up publishing. They
also never gave me any confirmation that
anything was fixed. There's something
really unnerving about going on record
with legislators or media and talking
about national security. I don't fully
understand what [music] defines a threat
to national security and it seems like
the type of topic where you don't want
to make any mistakes. So, I just didn't
mention [music] it and kept that term
out of my mouth and I just provided our
research to those who could. [music] And
according to Oregon Senator Widen and
Illinois Representative Krishna Mory,
well, in their words, Flock has
unnecessarily exposed Americans
sensitive personal data to theft [music]
by hackers and foreign spies.
Part of my research was trying to figure
out just how effective the adoption of
lock safety [music] and similar ALPR
services have been at reducing crime
rates or increasing crime [music]
clearance rates. And this is a
deceptively difficult task. For example,
let's do what most people concerningly
do these days and ask Google and let AI
answer it for us. Well, hey, there you
have it. Let's maybe look at those
actual sources, though. By the way, I
want to take a moment [music] to
congratulate Flock Safety on their
search engine optimization skills. It's
so good that even services that only
exist to help companies improve their
SEO [music] are like, "Bro, sorry. It's
literally impossible to improve beyond
your elite talent." This means that
whenever you want to find information
about flock safety or ALPRs or police
cameras, Flock is going to be the most
prominent and influential force in your
initial results. And subsequently, so
will the AI assistants answer. More on
that hellscape in a future video. But
hey, look, some studies. Let's check
them out. Okay, so only two of these
[music] studies took place after Flock
Safety was even incorporated, and they
tell us nothing about the efficacy of
surveillance or data collection. Flock
Safety's [music] website claims that 10%
of all crime in America is solved using
their services, which is a pretty
impressive thing to brag about. However,
the source that they cite [music] this
claim with was a research paper created
by two Flock Safety employees that
doesn't really outline regional
analysis. [music] In other words, crime
has been dropping nationally in America
since 2021, even in the last year. The
first thing that I personally would want
to look for is a crime [music] rate and
clearance comparison between cities that
use flock safety services and cities
that do not. And when you do it that
way, it's extremely difficult to find
any meaningful changes related to
surveillance technology in general. But
there have been other studies not
directly related to the surveillance
industry. The National Policing
Institute did a multi-sight evaluation
and said that license plate readers can
improve public safety, but the
technologies impact depends on its
implementation. It could just be me, but
this sounds quite a bit different than
what Flock CEO is saying. Over [music]
5,000 cities leveraged Flock to solve
north of 14% of all crimes in America.
But Flock's story is an Atlanta story.
We [music] can now rest assured that if
a crime happens in South Downtown, it
will be [music] solved. It wasn't.
In 2023, the Berkeley Police
Accountability Board did some data
[music] diving and found that ALPRs in
other California communities were
sometimes more correlated with increases
in vehicle theft and [music] lower crime
clearance rates. In the case of
Bakersfield, California, it was only
after ALPRs were installed when the city
rose to have the highest motor vehicle
theft rate in the United States. The
board also noticed that Flock [music]
Safety had claimed their services were
responsible for a 33% decrease in motor
vehicle thefts in Bakavville,
California, but were citing data from
years before the cameras were even
installed. Which brings us to Oakland,
California. And in full transparency,
I've been informally consulting with and
sharing some of this research with their
city council, who had just delayed a
vote on a $2.25 million expansion
[music] to its Flock Safety Network.
Flock Safety's public website claims
that their services have helped
Oakland's violent crime clearance rate
rise by 11%. Not bad. Well, actually
kind of bad because they failed to
mention that violent crime decreased by
19% in that period, which is on par with
the FBI crime stats for the entire
country. They also conveniently failed
[music] to mention that in 2023, Oakland
had a violent crime clearance rate of
3%. And that was later acknowledged as
an error by the police department
[music] themselves. And this was a
pretty big news story last year. and the
Oakland Police Department were the ones
to acknowledge and confirm the error in
the first place. So, how are so many
cities like this failing to call
[ __ ] on these types of claims that
may result in millions of tax dollars
being spent on these services? This is
what I keep running into again and again
when researching the efficacy of police
surveillance technology. A private
business will site statistics that
[music] are often misleading and somehow
nobody from these cities or police
departments seem to have actually
validated the information quoted in the
sales pitches.
So, all of this aside, even if we're not
considering all of these questionable
data sources in marketing, sociology is
an incredibly chaotic field of study,
one that typically requires decades of
adeptly sourced data to accurately
suggest whether a technology or a policy
change reduces crime. For decades, we've
been trying to figure out if an increase
in police can even reduce crime. So at
the very least there should be an
independent robust metaanalysis to
figure out how effective private
surveillance and data sharing is before
we take money away from other resources
to pay for it. Right? And without
getting too philosophical here, it is
worth considering for a second that
catching people committing crimes is
very different than total antisocial or
criminal events. like a thief or a
serial killer or a drug dealer or a drug
addict is not going to see a bunch of
police cameras and then just tap out
from crime and become a plumber. They're
just going to commit crimes in a more
obiscated way, which more often than not
complicates the process of finding a
reformative solution. By the way, what
an exhausting [music] amount of
sociology studies have figured out over
the last 50 years is that high levels of
surveillance drastically decreases
well-being, morale, and even workplace
[music] productivity. If you think about
that for a moment, it shouldn't really
surprise anyone. If you have a job where
you think your superiors are constantly
watching you and judging your every
move, you'll be concerned with appearing
to be productive instead of learning and
developing your skills at your natural
speed. Or consider this recent study
that strongly suggests that high levels
of surveillance causes a steep decline
in voluntary visual processing, meaning
that it quite literally impairs the
brain's ability [music] to process and
recognize human faces. And once again,
this is one of those things that you
hear and you're like, "What?" But when
you think about it, it's not all that
surprising. [music] When you feel like
you're in an environment where you are
intrinsically not trusted, you're going
to be far less likely to make friendly
[music] or meaningful social connections
with others. And I'm sorry, but that
just doesn't sound anything [music] like
a safe environment to me. And that's on
top of an exhaustive amount of studies
outlining exactly how and why increased
surveillance decreases well-being and
mental health. But some people seemingly
only read the studies conducted by
companies trying to sell them something.
Meet Mike Johnston, the mayor of Denver.
At first, it seemed like he had the same
careful agnosticism about flock safety
cameras that many researchers have.
[music]
Our flock cameras are shut off to every
federal agency, everyone outside the
state of Colorado, everyone outside the
city and county of Denver. Uh, and no
one can access them other than Denver
Police Department officers. You could
interpret all of the research that I
showed you in this video however you
like, but the way I interpreted it was
that it technically demonstrated and
proved that statement to be false. But
guys, don't worry about this.
Could a federal law enforcement agency
use this database to track someone down
on an icehole and arrest them? Uh, no,
cuz the system is not designed to do
that. that in just over a year of data
of usage of Denver's block safety
services, queries [music] openly
admitting to be used for immigration
services amounted to over 1,800. Mike
even warns us of the grave dangers of
cutting this data off from external
communities.
I want to be clear, this is a risk on
public safety. If you have someone that
commits a crime in Lakewood and flees
into Denver, they will not be able to
find that person in Denver. You know, we
had a uh a trans woman who was kidnapped
and murdered uh picked up in Denver,
murdered in Lakewood. We solved that
crime because Denver and Lakewood could
talk to each other across a flock camera
database.
Except that didn't happen at all. He's
referring to the death of Jax Grafton,
which was not a solved murder. Jax's
mother was more than happy to speak her
mind about this. I'm shocked and
appalled that a public official would
use my daughter and and claim that Flock
[music] had anything to do with her f
being found.
Fortunately, as a result of all this
[ __ ] and citizen backlash, the
Denver City Council overwhelmingly voted
to not renew the flock safety contract.
And in their council letter on the
issue, they went as far as calling out
flock safety's ethics and credibility.
and I quote, "We do not believe that the
city and county of Denver should
continue doing business with [music] a
company that has demonstrated such
disregard for honesty and
accountability." Whoa, now hold on
before you celebrate your renewal of
faith in humanity. Mayor Mike Johnson
sideststepped city council and signed
the flock safety contract anyway, which
council members are now calling a
backroom deal with a known bad actor.
And all of this [ __ ] happened just in
time for police to drive out from Coline
Valley, Colorado to knock on a woman's
door in Denver with a summon wrongfully
[music] accusing her of stealing a
package off of someone's porch. Any
guesses on what technology they're
citing as evidence?
Flock cameras.
You know, we have cameras in that town
and you can't get a breath of fresh air
in or out of that place without us
knowing. Correct.
To be fair, that seems like a pretty
safe prison city. While the officer
refused to look [music] at the
overwhelming dash cam, torch camera, and
Google Maps evidence exonerating the
woman, fortunately, the police chief
eventually did. But this makes one
ponder, what's the result when this
happens to a 19-year-old black dude.
Notably, this year, people in
communities across the United States
have been increasingly concerned about
or opposed to the rapid expansion of
private surveillance in their
communities. A lot of people have been
noticing more and more of these little
black cameras with the solar panels and
just assume that they were innocently
monitoring traffic flow or maybe giving
a dispatcher a better idea of who or
what to send to deal with an accident.
But now they're finding out what they do
and what they're capable of doing. And a
lot of people are just like, "Yeah,
that." And now every few days I hear
about another city pushing back and
deciding to [music] take down Flock
safety cameras. However, in some cases,
a city formally deciding that they no
longer want Flock Safety Services or
cameras somehow doesn't result [music]
in them going away. After finding out
that ICE was using their cameras without
their knowledge or consent, the Chicago
suburb of Evston decided that they
wanted them removed. So, Flock Safety
then reinstalled most of them. [music]
And since you can't own a Flock Safety
device, only lease it, the city or
police department would be handling and
potentially damaging private property
when removing them. So now Evston,
Illinois is spending tax dollars on
legal expenses for cease and desist
letters and covering the cameras with
plastic sheeting to protect residents
from being tracked by them. But my
previous video about this topic came way
too late. Organizations like Lucy
Parson's Labs and Sassy [music] South
have been pushing back for years.
Another great example, Will Freeman,
who's a software engineer who started
Dlock [music] last year.
Around a year ago, I was taking um a
road trip from Seattle to Huntsville,
Alabama. [music] And I ran into so many
of these along the way in these like
really small towns. I wanted to do what
most [music] cities weren't doing and
actually tell people what these things
are, where they are, and how many there
are. Will is [music] more or less simply
trying to keep a map and publicly
accessible record of deployed cameras. I
think this [music] is something that
both local governments and flock safety
should already be doing, and you'd
probably have a hard time finding anyone
who disagrees with that, right?
I've never gotten a seasoned assist
before. Uh but luckily before this even
happened, the EFF reached out via email
and uh just said that they were there if
we needed anything. So I reached out to
them and then they were able to send a
response, actually two responses because
their lawyers sent another uh another
letter back saying basically like we
don't care. [music] Uh we think you're
wrong. Anyway,
block cease and desist here was
pertaining to trademark, which in my
opinion seems like an absurdly frivolous
way to try and bully someone to take
down a website that simply provides the
public with some transparency about
surveillance that their tax dollars pay
for. But Garrett Langley, the founder
and CEO of Flock Safety, doesn't see it
this way.
And then unfortunately, there's
terroristic organizations like Deflock,
whose primary motivation is chaos. They
are closer to Antifa than they are
anything else.
I mean, where do you even begin with
this? Firstly, if you're going to live
action roleplay The Dark Knight, at
least watch the movie up until the point
where Lucius Fox and Batman both agree
that their mass surveillance system is
grossly unethical and intentionally
destroy it. Secondly, using buzzwords
like Antifa doesn't exactly invite
rational or goodfaith discourse. You
trolled this guy with legal demands and
then publicly accused him of being a
terrorist. But the key takeaway of this
interview for me,
but that's why we have a democratically
elected process, right? Like I I we're
not forcing flock on anyone.
Let me make something clear. My little
farm here is not exactly in a dense
urban environment. We don't even have
sidewalks. I literally cannot leave my
neighborhood to go get groceries or ship
out a package without passing a flock
[music] camera and having my activities
logged into a database that is shared to
a much larger regional database. I am
not allowed to know who has access to
this information. The people sharing my
local information regionally or even
nationally most likely do not know
exactly who has access to it. I didn't
sign up for flock safety. I never
consented to it. I've never had an
opportunity to vote for it. I do not
have the option to opt out of it. And
then after researching and taking some
pictures of the cameras that are
constantly [music] photographing me and
seeking more information about them, I
coincidentally get cops in my driveway
waking my family [music] members up
asking weird questions and freaking my
neighbors out. Now I'm shelving
educational video projects to pay
attorneys and constantly have [music] to
make sure someone is around to take care
of my animals because every day I'm not
sure if I'm going to be [ __ ] detained
for literally not breaking a single law.
We're not forcing flock on anyone. lacks
so much perspective [music] and is
packed with so much delusion and
cognitive dissonance that even Forb's
senior editor can't manage to keep a
straight face through the sentence.
We're not forcing flock on anyone.
How you doing?
May I help you?
Here are just a few of the many strange
events regularly happening at Ben's home
and lab this month that may or may not
be associated with this [music] video.
That's somebody being like, "What the
are you doing?"
Literally, all the neighbors are freaked
out.
I think he's just recording video.
Would it be legal if I took my out?
Let's just be honest for [music] a
second and state the obvious. These
cameras aren't exactly little
impenetrable fortresses. They're plastic
Android cameras and compute [music]
boxes mounted 7 ft off the ground with
hose clamps. And in many cases, they can
be found in semi-ural areas where one
has trouble [music] finding a stop sign
that doesn't have bullet holes in it.
And there are a whole lot of people who
absolutely despise these cameras. But
we're being patient and we're taking the
high road. We're asking [music] our
local, state, and federal governments to
not throw our tax dollars at a fast
scaling tech startup before adequately
researching the [music] risks and
rewards and especially before vetting
the hardware and software services that
are harvesting our information. It might
seem like my research and videos on this
topic are anti- flock. And to some
degree, because of delusional [ __ ] like
this, they are. But we also shouldn't
deny that there's a long list of
companies trying everything they can to
take Flock Safety's place on the
leaderboard. If somehow we all woke up
tomorrow morning and Flock ceased to
exist, another startup would quickly be
in their place, promising to help
[music] police solve crime in exchange
for taxpayer money. But do you want to
know what I find absolutely outrageous?
That over 80,000 surveillance cameras
were installed all over the country. And
I'm not aware of a single public audit
of the devices, the services, or the
technology. And if there was, they would
have found [music] the exact same
lowhanging fruit detailed in this video.
And that's the big difference here that
we need to constantly be acknowledging.
Your government supposedly exists to
keep order, security, and safety for
society. Flock Safety exists to make
money. They're not a charity. They're a
$7.5 billion tech startup reportedly
preparing to launch an IPO. And by far
their biggest investor is Andre and
Horowit. So this is pretty simple stuff.
Should we trust civilian data with a
company who is partially controlled and
funded by Andre and Horowits? Well,
let's see. Mark Andre was a board member
of Facebook during the Cambridge
Analytica scandal and was one of the
people on [music] the hook for over 8
billion in privacy violation settlement.
A6Z's portfolio company, Coinbase,
[music] exposed sensitive information of
69,000 customers. Even the A16Z website
itself [music] had flaws allowing
hackers to view sensitive information
about their portfolio companies. Ah,
there's so much. What else? Lendup was
shut down in 2021 for repeatedly
breaking the law and cheating its
[music] own customers. Telus deceived
their customers into thinking that they
were putting their money into FDIC
insured savings accounts. Wise was
involved in funding Hamas and pig
butchering crypto schemes. But no, I'm
sure this time it'll be fine. I'm so
sure that it'll be fine that I'm not
even going to look under the hood.
I have an idea and it's a pretty obvious
conclusion [music] to all of this and I
think it's an idea that anyone watching
this can agree on. Well, except for
maybe the people invested in government
surveillance. But hear me out. If a
private company wants to [music] offer
services to the government that are
related to national security, public
surveillance, or processing data that
will be used [music] within the public
justice system, they will have to pay an
application fee and provide access to
any hardware or software that [music]
they intend to put in public. This
application fee will hire a small team
of independent security researchers who
[music] are vetted and unaffiliated with
the services or products that they're
researching. This team will essentially
do exactly what we did [music] in this
video, but with adequate resources. If
problems are discovered, CBEEs will be
published and responsible disclosure
will be followed, which would presumably
[music] help the company tighten things
up without having to pay bug bounties.
And if no major problems are discovered,
then the [music] company will receive a
rating that will be valid for one year
until they have to renew their vendor
license and get a less intensive
inspection. This is not too much to ask.
You can't open a hair salon without a
license. You can't keep a McDonald's
open without a health inspection. You
can't legally drive a car past a flock
safety camera without taking a routine
driver's test and having a vehicle that
passes basic safety requirements. This
is an apolitical common sense solution
to a really big problem. I'm going to
formally propose it to legislators I'm
in contact with. And I think it'd be
really useful if you, yeah, you wrote,
emailed, and called your representative
senators and state attorney generals
proposing the same thing. I don't
believe that humans are intrinsically
right or left. But if you haven't
noticed, finding objectivity in the
media right now is like being a
grasshopper stuck in the middle of a
football field. I'm very familiar with
Ground News. I've been a paying customer
of the service for years. It's an app
and a website that collects news
articles from around the world and
organizes them by political bias,
reliability, and potential conflicts of
interest [music] such as media
ownership. Ground News themselves are
independently owned and funded by
subscribers like myself, and they're
vetted by three different independent
news monitoring organizations. So,
here's an example. Here we have this AI
generated drone illustration hovering
over [music] protesters and it's warning
them that they're being monitored by
predator drones orbiting over Los
Angeles. [music] Yes, orbiting. I
suppose if people could believe that the
earth is flat, then people could believe
that LA is a celestial body. Okay, so I
head over to ground news to see if this
is even a thing. And kablam, it is. Then
you can see these bias filters, which
you could use as a sort of political
compass or an amusing joy ride to see
how cooked we all are. more. I can
easily see who owns the media source and
then their factuality score from three
different news monitoring organizations.
And then if I'm feeling brave, I can use
the blind spot feature to see the news
stories that my own personal internet
echo chamber isn't showing me. And as
usual, when I have a sponsor on this
channel, any profit from that
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In my last video on this, I talked a lot
about ethics. I talked a lot about how
ALPRs and AI cameras could be misused
and how they already have been misused.
I outlined how I believe it easily
violates Americans Fourth Amendment
rights. And here is some feel-good
information that you probably don't get
to hear much of in 2025. This is a
completely nonpartisan issue. One could
use this type of surveillance to track
people that ICE intends to capture or
deport. Or one could use this type of
surveillance to track ICE to sabotage
and warn people about raids. It could be
used to track a woman leaving her state
to get an abortion. It can also be used
to track someone driving around during a
lockdown during a pandemic. There is no
civilian anywhere who is always 100%
aligned with their government throughout
their entire life. [music] If mass
surveillance sounds good to you today,
then it probably wouldn't have sounded
good to you 5 years ago. And I guarantee
you that it won't sound good to you at
some point in the future. This isn't a
right verse left thing or a Republican
verse Democrat thing or an empathy verse
logic thing. It's an authoritarian verse
individual thing. Privacy is a form of
power that increases your control over
your own destiny. And right now, you're
at a junction where you're made to be so
scared of your neighbors that you might
be willing to give up that power. Or you
can simply say, "No, I refuse to pay for
my every movement to be tracked by my
government through a for-profit company
that hasn't even been adequately vetted
to protect my security." But for this to
stop, you need to use your voice and you
need to get involved. There are links in
the description to [music] show you
exactly how to do that.
This video is by far the most
timeconuming, impactful, expensive, and
collaborative product I've done on this
channel or with this nonprofit.
Obviously, it would have not been
possible without John Gaines incredible
and thorough research or Joshua
Michael's determination, ethics, and
skill set. If you work in government and
listen to that part a few minutes ago
about setting up a research team to
[music] verify technology vendors
courting for government contracts, both
John and Josh's websites with their
contact information can be found in the
description. I also need to thank the
exhaustive level of work from Ed Vogle,
Sassy, Lucy Parson's Labs, my legal
council, Albert Sers LLP, and those
incredibly brave individuals who trusted
me with information that could get them
in a lot of trouble for sharing. They
put the safety and common good of
society above their own interests. And I
want to acknowledge how meaningful and
frankly beautiful that is. I want to
thank all the legislators, police
officers, and commissioners who, instead
of calling me a terrorist, participated
in a civil discussion on how to serve
their communities better. But most of
all, I want to thank my Patreon members.
It might not seem like it, but this
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